# Joined the P-car club **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 6, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614 "2012-12-06T14:57:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/101 "2012-12-12T05:52:47Z")
> [@TrueBlue](#): > > Good post :tup: Interesting read. I would guess that the aftermarket has pounced on this and you can repair the engine correctly with a new HD bearing and seal? Sort of. On the newer design with the larger IMS bearing model year late 05-MY08 (before they eliminated it entirely in 2009) the tool LN invented to pull the bearing from outside the engine won’t work because the larger IMS bearing won’t fit out the flange opening (requiring engine removal and complete disassembly to replace the bearing). Apparently the failure rate is much less on the new large IMS bearing, but when they do go it’s still with little to no warning and complete engine destruction. ---
**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/102 "2012-12-12T07:59:49Z")
A few months ago I spent a lot of hours reading about the IMS variations and how the engine oiling system has changed on the different model/years for a long time customer considering a GT3. I went through Porsche service updates, engine diagrams from service manuals, various writeups etc. I know the IMS failure is not as common on the engine you have and that’s great, though it can still happen. I’m not saying your car will have a problem because I see Porsches blow up almost every time I’m at the Glen. I’m concerned about the potential of it happening based on research. Seeing it over and over and knowing friends have nearly totalled their cars due to losing control in the oil downs the failures cause just keeps the issue on my mind. All sorts of cars blow up at the Glen and what I see is a small sample of cars run very hard. I imagine the incidence of failure on the street is considerably lower. If you just cruise it around I agree you’ll probably be fine and I hope that’s the case. I’m sorry you mistook my concern for you as something else, and I wish you luck with the car. MPD the Porsche I posted pics of in May that blew up in front of me was a GT3 unless someone swapped the body panels and added the wing, but the others didn’t fail while I was on track so I don’t have video going by them. > [@L8APEX1](#): > > have you met x? I was talking about leaving the bearing alone because it’s so much work on that gen engine…not the whole car. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/103 "2012-12-12T13:45:09Z")
The yellow car? Days of thunder in the toe? That was a C2 with an aero kit. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/104 "2012-12-12T14:11:57Z")
[https://youtu.be/KRbzJ0L1Zn8](https://youtu.be/KRbzJ0L1Zn8) This is awesome in retrospect. X… ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/105 "2012-12-12T15:26:49Z")
Proud of you, homie. Just remember to drive the VW to the initial sales calls and the p-car only after the deal is closed and you are picking up signed docs. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/106 "2012-12-12T16:13:49Z")
Nah drive the Porsche. I look at sales guys who have lesser vehicles as more inferior at their job. My nice cars just show that I am good at what I do and I deserve your business, not that I am ripping you off. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/107 "2012-12-12T17:02:01Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > Nah drive the Porsche. I look at sales guys who have lesser vehicles as more inferior at their job. My nice cars just show that I am good at what I do and I deserve your business, not that I am ripping you off. Completely depends on industry ---
**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/108 "2012-12-12T17:13:39Z")
In the paint business I always get “oh you drive a bmw, that’s why your paint it so expensive.” To which I always reply, “If you’re impressed by a 20 year old $2k car, you’re going to love my presentation” lol. fggts. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/109 "2012-12-12T17:14:16Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > Nah drive the Porsche. I look at sales guys who have lesser vehicles as more inferior at their job. My nice cars just show that I am good at what I do and I deserve your business, not that I am ripping you off. We have this thread already, lol. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/110 "2012-12-12T17:28:28Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > We have this thread already, lol. Yeah, sorry. This whole thread is filled with so much hate on his bad ass new ride, I just had to throw something in there. Nice car, congrats on the pickup! ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/111 "2012-12-12T17:38:12Z")
IS THIS THING AWD YET?? ---
**Author:** ![L8APEX1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/l8apex1/32/7276_2.png) [@L8APEX1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/L8APEX1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/112 "2012-12-12T18:11:09Z")
![http://www.madwhips.com/upload/images/techart_porsche_997_turbo_bullrun_2008_1-568-426.jpg](http://www.madwhips.com/upload/images/techart_porsche_997_turbo_bullrun_2008_1-568-426.jpg) Paint teeth on it!!! ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/113 "2012-12-13T05:56:29Z")
^^^ This is why it’s a good thing you don’t own one. LOL …and no I probably won’t be driving it to work. I realize why EvoMR doesn’t drive his to work, people are such haters. X… ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/114 "2012-12-13T06:25:41Z")
I think the general impression from people when they see someone in a porsche is that you are a rich asshole, not a auto enthusiast. Get ready for even more hate than when driving the bimmer. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/115 "2012-12-13T06:45:29Z")
> [@POOPRA](#): > > I think the general impression from people when they see someone in a Mercedes is that you are a rich asshole, not a auto enthusiast. Get ready for even more hate than when driving the bimmer. Fixed your spelling. ---
**Author:** ![EvoMR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evomr/32/7186_2.png) [@EvoMR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EvoMR)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/116 "2012-12-13T09:01:41Z")
> [@POOPRA](#): > > I think the general impression from people when they see someone in a porsche is that you are a rich asshole, not a auto enthusiast. Get ready for even more hate than when driving the bimmer. Spot on. And unless you actually have a conversation about the car, the stock assumption is that you are an asshole. In X’s case, people need to talk to him to know that he is both. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/117 "2012-12-13T11:50:02Z")
I’m pretty sure you bought this just so you could change your avatar and sig… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![L8APEX1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/l8apex1/32/7276_2.png) [@L8APEX1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/L8APEX1)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/118 "2012-12-13T13:43:45Z")
> [@EvoMR](#): > > In X’s case, people need to talk to him to know that he is both. 😉 :tup: lol ---
**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/119 "2012-12-13T18:25:20Z")
> [@EvoMR](#): > > In X’s case, people need to talk to him to know that he is both. 😉 LMAO. ---
**Author:** ![Jimshorts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jimshorts/32/5915_2.png) [@Jimshorts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jimshorts)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614/120 "2012-12-14T05:33:49Z")
> [@L8APEX1](#): > > Paint teeth on it!!! Only on the bullrun lol. Definitely doing it when I have some monies… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/joined-the-p-car-club/227614.md?page=7)