# Journey In A Breadbox: My '97 M3/4/5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [June 13, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646 "2010-06-13T03:05:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/21 "2010-06-13T13:19:21Z")
Nice find!! ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/22 "2010-06-13T19:35:55Z")
> [@Business ideas........](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/business-ideas/32552/47): > > Highly recommended. Sacrifice a little low end torque for lots of top end hp. No emissions changes. this, though I only have experience with the Turner ‘conversion’ so I can’t say otherwise…I think I’ve heard good things about the Eurosport kit, and IIRC the bimmerworld kit has some nifty piece nobody else includes, but that’s all I can tell you off the top of my head :rofl ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/23 "2010-06-13T19:40:26Z")
What’s in the kit? What else do you need to hook it up? ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/24 "2010-06-13T19:48:45Z")
Enlighten us Benny! Thanks to Jesse for the advice. I have been reading on [m50manifold.com](http://m50manifold.com) but their complete kit is like $300+… ![http://m50manifold.com/images/stories/Pic_7.JPG](http://m50manifold.com/images/stories/Pic_7.JPG) I’ve seen M50 manifolds going for about $100 or so, but you need some hoses and stuff, and also the fuel rail cover needs to match or there will be a small gap between that and the manny? Seems the fuel rail cover isn’t that important though… ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/25 "2010-06-13T19:58:50Z")
Archie you are far too resourceful to pay $300 for that. 🙂 Factory gaskets, small vac hose, and that contraption for the IACV. ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/26 "2010-06-13T20:01:41Z")
> [@pepsi center update](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pepsi-center-update/32598/57): > > Archie you are far too resourceful to pay $300 for that. 🙂 Factory gaskets, small vac hose, and that contraption for the IACV. Nope no way I am going to pay $300 for that… _'Cause I don’t have it!_ Will research more, but first I’ll take a good look under the car and then go onto getting the 3.38 installed along with changing the suspension out… Definitely interested in the M50 manny though! ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/27 "2010-06-13T20:07:43Z")
One of the kits includes a nifty molded silicon iacv tube, idk. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/28 "2010-06-13T20:09:02Z")
Hi-flow silicone IACV tube is worth at least 12whp at idle. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/29 "2010-06-13T20:10:10Z")
probably not but it looks way more legit than that random hose clamp contraption. I wouldn’t put that thing on my car it makes my eyes hurt. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/30 "2010-06-13T20:11:15Z")
I’m pretty sure all e36s have the same pressure at the rail, so just get an obd1 fuel rail/regulator…however im not sure if they’re plumbed differently. ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/31 "2010-06-13T21:29:15Z")
nice automobile archie, op was a nice read thanks. ---
**Author:** ![skiboard06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@skiboard06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skiboard06)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/32 "2010-06-14T06:44:56Z")
Looks great Archie. I would wait until you get used to the good old stock s52 power then change over to the m50 manifold. Your money will feel better spent. The 3.38 install should be easy, do it yourself. ---
**Author:** ![johnnyk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johnnyk/32/6480_2.png) [@johnnyk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/johnnyk)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/33 "2010-06-14T07:19:48Z")
damn that thing is clean, nice pic up ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/34 "2010-06-14T21:14:29Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/32608/12): > > Looks great Archie. I would wait until you get used to the good old stock s52 power then change over to the m50 manifold. Your money will feel better spent. > > The 3.38 install should be easy, do it yourself. True… After several years of not owning anything remotely speedy, 240 hp is PLENTY. M50 swap is not an immediate concern but nice to know it’s there when I get used to things. 🙂 Looking forward to 3.38 and my GC kit/camber plates/adj rear arms installed and aligned on this car with real tires though!! ---
**Author:** ![zee\_oh\_sex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zee_oh_sex/32/6451_2.png) [@zee\_oh\_sex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zee_oh_sex)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/35 "2010-06-15T09:28:01Z")
GREAT OP, really enjoyed the read. Nice pick up man. This thing looks very clean. Should be a very nice and reliable DD/cruiser. Congrats on finding what you wanted! ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/36 "2010-06-15T10:53:16Z")
Nice dude! Love four doors. You really do have fun writing up your posts, don’t you? :lol ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/37 "2010-06-15T10:58:19Z")
i think you have this thing for buying silver cars :lol Nice pickup :thumb ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/38 "2010-07-04T21:36:41Z")
OK updated the thread real quick. Here’s my to do list for this car as of today. Thanks to Wayne aka WS\* some of the hard stuff has been done already. _(\* Would Smash! doH)_ Write up and pics of stuff to follow! 1. Guibo (Flex Plate) Replacement 2. Replace Transmission Mounts 3. 3.38 LSD Swap 4. Shifter Bushings 5. Interior Swap (Vaders + Rear Bench) 6. Side Skirt Replacement 7. Replace Brake Travel Sensor 8. Replace Front O2 Sensors 9. Install SS Brake Lines, Bleed System 10. Install SS Clutch Line, Bleed System 11. Replace Brake Pads 12. New Wheels / Tires + Alignment 13. Sub/amp Install That’s it for now. Hoping to finish everything by August. HA, that’s a good one but I’ll do what I can!! ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/39 "2010-07-05T07:58:58Z")
Do the transmission linkage “knuckle” when you do the shifter bushings. It’s only $25 and it’s the source of half of the play in the linkage. That and carrier arm bushings (around the bitch clip) and you’ll be good. That might be the most satisfying mod on your list. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646/40 "2010-07-05T08:50:42Z")
Archie, I don’t know how you like those Vader seats. They have to be the most uncomfortable seats I ever sat in :lol [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/journey-in-a-breadbox-my-97-m3-4-5/252646.md?page=3)