# Junior Seau Dead, Apparent suicide

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [May 2, 2012, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694 "2012-05-02T11:55:45Z")
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### Author: ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/21 "2012-05-02T15:47:46Z")

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Sad. I just wonder why. He drove his car off a cliff last year but said that he fell asleep at the wheel. Looks like there were some ongoing issues.

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### Author: ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/22 "2012-05-02T15:51:49Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> It’s not acting tough…
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> You’re comparing some millionaire ex football player who killed him self vs People who went into battle to protect their country and your freedom.
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> Nothing was stopping him from leaving football after the first concussion.

I’m not defending the guy at all for taking his life. How would he know that he would have issues down the road from concussions. Had he left, then people would bitch that he bailed on his team when they needed him the most.

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### Author: ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/23 "2012-05-02T15:55:06Z")

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There is clearly something going on with ex-NFL players later in life. A scary proportion of them, especially the guys in the trenches that did the most hitting and being hit, just lose it. I wouldn’t be surprised if his brain comes back positive for CTE.

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### Author: ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/24 "2012-05-02T16:00:32Z")

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In the artical Progrocker posted, it mentioned how the one guy would play 18 plays in a row and not remember any of them. He would take hits that would have his eyes crossed for 5 plays and he would just keep going after the 3 guys in the middle until he heard the whistle. Crazy shit if you ask me.

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### Author: ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/25 "2012-05-02T16:06:14Z")

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I don’t feel bad for someone who commits suicide, as there is always a better answer (I feel bad for the family he left behind)…but a lot of times these people have an acutual illness, they are SO depressed they feel like the only way to make people happy around them is to end their life. I used to feel the same gt08vapor until I got educated and realized there’s a lot more behind suicide than just a weak mind.

either way RIP ☹

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### Author: ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/26 "2012-05-02T16:24:17Z")

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Well at least he didn’t go the Chris Benoit route.

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### Author: ![gt08vapor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/22d042/32.png) [@gt08vapor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gt08vapor)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/27 "2012-05-02T17:05:34Z")

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> [@bobbyg1243](#):
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> LOL you guys get your kicks by acting tough on NYSPEED? This guy had legitimate problems from concussions. He tried driving his car off a cliff last year…the was probably a failed suicide. I can’t imagine what you guys must think about military guys that take their lives, are they taking the easy way out too?

See little do you know. I know all about brain injury. I have TBI, with 2 cysts growing on my brain that need to be monitored regularly. Broke several vertebra in my back, spent 8 months in a hospital and 3 years in rehab and therapy for my injuries. Have 8 1/2 years in the army, spent in the infantry and am medically retired from it. I have friends and that are parts of those statistics of ones that committed suicide. They were good guys but weak minded and took the easy way out. Nothing is worth taking your life, making your kids and family suffer. But i am just a nyspeed tough guy.

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### Author: ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/28 "2012-05-02T17:12:37Z")

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People kill themselves everyday, this one just happened to be famous.

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### Author: ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/29 "2012-05-02T17:13:16Z")

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My comment was more directed at Krant, but your right, I didn’t know your situation. Still, I don’t think anyone can pass judgement on the guy since none of us know his situation.

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### Author: ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/30 "2012-05-02T18:43:45Z")

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> [@bobbyg1243](#):
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> LOL you guys get your kicks by acting tough on NYSPEED? This guy had legitimate problems from concussions. He tried driving his car off a cliff last year…the was probably a failed suicide. I can’t imagine what you guys must think about military guys that take their lives, are they taking the easy way out too?

This.

I’m not one that feels sorry about suicide typically because I feel most depression is conditional not chemical. This guy had alot of head trauma and the military as pointed out often have trauma to explain their depression as well. Someone brought up the millions he made, do you think it was worth it now? Hell, most pro athletes end up broke because you really can’t take a nobody and shower them with money overnight expecting a good long term outcome. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was having financial issues actually…that was my first thought actually.

I do agree it’s the easy way out and pushes your pain on the people around you which isn’t fair. Just a sucky situation really, for all involved.

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2012, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/31 "2012-05-03T07:39:01Z")

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CNN has a good article about CTE for those who couldn’t make it through the New Yorker article posted earlier.

> **[Duerson brain tissue analyzed: Suicide linked to brain disease](http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/02/duerson.brain.exam.results/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)**
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> His was a suicide with a macabre twist. In February, former Chicago Bears safety David Duerson shot himself in the chest, but not before leaving behind a note requesting his brain be studied for evidence of a disease striking football players.

> …snip… CTE has been found in the brains of 14 of 15 former NFL players thus far studied at the center. Their cases share a common thread – repeated concussions, sub-concussive blows to the head, or both. The picture beginning to emerge from these cases is that trauma could be causing brain damage.

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### Author: ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2012, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/32 "2012-05-03T07:42:54Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> CNN has a good article about CTE for those who make it through the New Yorker article posted earlier.
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> [Duerson brain tissue analyzed: Suicide linked to brain disease - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/02/duerson.brain.exam.results/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)

Wait so getting hit in the head isn’t good for you?

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### Author: ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2012, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/33 "2012-05-03T07:56:03Z")

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> [@bobbyg1243](#):
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> My comment was more directed at Krant, but your right, I didn’t know your situation. Still, I don’t think anyone can pass judgement on the guy since none of us know his situation.

you’re\*

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### Author: ![L8APEX1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/l8apex1/32/7276_2.png) [@L8APEX1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/L8APEX1)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/34 "2012-05-03T18:48:17Z")

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Think he said oww?

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### Author: ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/35 "2012-05-03T20:46:12Z")

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Everyone who had ever met him always said good things about him. It’s a shame it happened.

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### Author: ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/36 "2012-05-04T20:04:59Z")

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the guy was never on an injury list for a concussion…

i think more than anything else he was despressed…a lot of these guys are the center of attention in their world from high school through their 30’s and then when they leave they don’t know what to do with themselves it seems… they have everything for a short time and the smart ones figure out a way to live the rest of their lives living off that short time…others just don’t seem to be able to deal with it… i don’t feel sorry for them…there are plenty of people out their who have had nothing for their whole life and they seem to be able to keep it together…

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### Author: ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/37 "2012-05-05T06:25:06Z")

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It’s not like every sports player has to take an entire season off for a concussion like sydney crosby. Im sure every time you lead with a tackle you get a mini concussion. Making these stats up here, but… 5 tackles per game x16 x 20 = 1600.

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### Author: ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2012, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/38 "2012-05-05T07:53:39Z")

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The big ones aren’t the problem it is all the small ones over and over again.

I had what was described as a severe concussion when I was a kid- ran full speed into a block wall- and after spending a day in the hospital and two days on the couch I was perfectly fine although there is about a 12 hour window of time I just don’t remember…I was playing baseball again in 2 weeks and never had any kind of recurring symptoms.

The isolated big hit isn’t the issue but it can expose underlying problems that developed from the little hits. I was also told at the time that after you get 1 big concussion it is easier to get more with less impact later

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### Author: ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2012, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/39 "2012-05-05T09:19:55Z")

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^Hasnt anyone told you that running into walls is bad for you?

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### Author: ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-seau-dead-apparent-suicide/222694/40 "2012-05-05T13:23:44Z")

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[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/b/5/b56a875698a339c299faf318773114d8f956a812.jpeg "The situation slams head to wall for 10 minutes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYG66zxw4Dc)

> [@08GT500](#):
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> ^Hasnt anyone told you that running into walls is bad for you?

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