# Junior tuned the Evo today...

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [September 11, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446 "2010-09-11T00:17:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/41 "2010-09-12T11:55:56Z")

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> [@FS: GSR Parts & some Civic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-gsr-parts-some-civic/34672/20):
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> I talked to pete about it… he said he just needed to run the fuel real low and it was fine

Easier and better to just pull the return line and run the engine, then you can use the pump gas in something else

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/42 "2010-09-12T11:56:54Z")

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I could of easily had a pump tune, but It’ll always have E85 in it. I’m basically using the alt map switch for different boost levels.

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/43 "2010-09-12T11:58:01Z")

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> [@FS: GSR Parts & some Civic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-gsr-parts-some-civic/34672/20):
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> I talked to pete about it… he said he just needed to run the fuel real low and it was fine

yep, when i switch from pump to e85, i wait for the light to come on, then do another 15 miles and pump in the juice.

same goes for vice-versa…

also if i go on a long trip i’ll just run it on pump 93, no big deal.

all with the flick of a switch and a turn of the wick 🙂

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**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/44 "2010-09-12T11:58:09Z")

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It has taken a few years but all you idiots are now accepting E85 for its potential. Remember this?

[http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=1036](http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=1036)

Still have yet to use it myself… ☹

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/45 "2010-09-12T11:58:18Z")

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> [@Buget cam only LS1 build](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buget-cam-only-ls1-build/34969/9):
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> Easier and better to just pull the return line and run the engine, then you can use the pump gas in something else

true… I did see morgan do that and it was wicked easy. But I guess for a car like a mustang with a big gas tank it would mix alot better. Either way… you need a tune for both.

Awesome numbers by the way… thing is gonna move out

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/46 "2010-09-12T11:59:24Z")

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> [@Fake Id's ?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fake-ids/34955/29):
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> It has taken a few years but all you idiots are now accepting E85 for its potential. Remember this?
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> [http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=1036](http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=1036)
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> Still have yet to use it myself… ☹

i’ve always planned on running e85, even before i had my evo!!!

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/47 "2010-09-12T12:00:17Z")

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> [@FS 12" kicker L7 sub and kicker zx750.1 amp and wiring kit](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-12-kicker-l7-sub-and-kicker-zx750-1-amp-and-wiring-kit/34937/7):
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> 20mpg on pump vs 14mpg on e85 (for me atleast)… not too much of a difference for what your getting out of it…

Agreed. In the grand scheme of things, it’s negligible.

Never understood people’s concerns for MPG when tuning a car for this kind of power anyway.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/48 "2010-09-12T12:01:52Z")

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I’m still begging Ray to run it, the system in the car now will support it with just an injector swap, and it’ll do as much/more on E85 vs C16.

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/49 "2010-09-12T12:10:29Z")

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> [@Fake Id's ?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fake-ids/34955/29):
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> It has taken a few years but all you idiots are now accepting E85 for its potential. Remember this?
> 
> [http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=1036](http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=1036)
> 
> Still have yet to use it myself… ☹

I have been using it since late '06. I revisited that thread to laugh @ stockcarboy saying it’s petroleum. e85 cleaned the SHIT out of my fuel system, I ran it through the stock injectors for a few weeks and they looked super clean after. I also took out the iridium plugs I installed in '05 at the same time and the carbon was coming off…

If I’m getting low on fuel and I am not close to an e85 station, I’ll just toss in some 87 octane (no need for 93 when you are blending 105+ octane fuel in) and take a few spirited turns to aid in mixing. It just runs a bit rich, but since I still have my STFT/LTFT’s enabled it runs just fine. I change the oil pretty regularly, so I don’t worry too much about it.

Anyhow, I lol’d pretty hard at some of the negative comments about e85 in that thread.

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**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/50 "2010-09-12T12:10:53Z")

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I have a lot more reading planning to do before I even think about pulling my car up to an e85 pump.

But, I do believe I am going to run it.

The biggest problem that people have now, that they still had back 2 years ago in that thread jowhawk, is everybody is misinformed.

Whatever false or not completely clear information that everyoen read about or posted back when, still echos around and until people have actually done it they belive whatever it is they hear

AND +1 to what pete and adam said, if your running it in your modified car for power, dont bitch about gas mileage :lol

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/51 "2010-09-12T12:12:28Z")

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nah i think your biggest problem is how your car looks

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**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/52 "2010-09-12T12:13:52Z")

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Also have any of you heard of the “black goo”

It’s something thats come up big on the Z31 forums with Jon who’s been looking at running e85 in his 700+whp Z.

Some findings on the internet (not that it means much) is many car guys are reporting a black stick goo on their injectors after running e85 for quite some time. Everyone decided it must be the fiberglass or some sort of coating in the tanks that the e85 is eating and circulating throughout the fuel system.

This wasnt just on Z’s it was on a broad range of cars where people were reporting this

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/53 "2010-09-12T12:14:05Z")

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> [@997 GT3 RS in Orchard Park](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/997-gt3-rs-in-orchard-park/34972/8):
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> nah i think your biggest problem is how your car looks

lol

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/54 "2010-09-12T12:45:20Z")

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> [@What car to buy Daily Driver](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-car-to-buy-daily-driver/34968/5):
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> Also have any of you heard of the “black goo”
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> It’s something thats come up big on the Z31 forums with Jon who’s been looking at running e85 in his 700+whp Z.
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> Some findings on the internet (not that it means much) is many car guys are reporting a black stick goo on their injectors after running e85 for quite some time. Everyone decided it must be the fiberglass or some sort of coating in the tanks that the e85 is eating and circulating throughout the fuel system.
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> This wasnt just on Z’s it was on a broad range of cars where people were reporting this

I had a tiny bit on the outside of the stockers, but when I took the blue giants out that I ran for 2+ years they had NONE. The gunk itself is part of an additive in the fuel, there was a gentleman that did a lab test and found that he could recreate it by boiling the fuel until the residue is left behind. The chemical structure was identical to “black goo” but it was clear.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/55 "2010-09-12T17:54:10Z")

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sooo how much you selling the vette for?

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/56 "2010-09-12T19:03:28Z")

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this thread gives me a headache

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/57 "2010-09-12T19:35:48Z")

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> [@MJOLNIR! Is the name.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mjolnir-is-the-name/34772/41):
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> this thread gives me a headache

Threadache. I haz one.

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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/58 "2010-09-12T20:14:13Z")

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> [@FS 1986 Fiero and 99 gtp motor $700 obo](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1986-fiero-and-99-gtp-motor-700-obo/34149/12):
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> sooo how much you selling the vette for?

less than 30

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**Author:** ![grimmspeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@grimmspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grimmspeed)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/59 "2010-09-13T08:00:54Z")

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Hey OP great numbers, just curious how the install instructions were wrong, want to make sure we have it right ya know!

Will

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/junior-tuned-the-evo-today/254446/60 "2010-09-13T11:26:54Z")

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> [@who uses Adobe Pshop or Indesign or Illustrator?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-uses-adobe-pshop-or-indesign-or-illustrator/34996/5):
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> Hey OP great numbers, just curious how the install instructions were wrong, want to make sure we have it right ya know!
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> Will

The car is an external WG car, and when the WG was hooked up per the directions, it did not control boost, gate was apparently shut. When hooked up per the internal gate directions, it worked fine (turbo to 3, side of the gate to 2, port 1 open)

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