# Just a heads up, xbox 360 live bans happening again

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 31, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543 "2009-10-31T06:58:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/41 "2009-11-10T13:14:01Z")

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Hmm…a Liteon. My friend who got his drive flashed at the same time as me and has only played one game online for af ew weeks with a liteon got banned too. Same with the other friend I know, Liteon. Me with a BenQ, safe. Coincidence?

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/42 "2009-11-10T13:15:06Z")

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as of last night im safe. I have a hitachi tho, so who knows.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/43 "2009-11-10T13:20:18Z")

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I really don’t think anyone is safe. You’re just lucky you haven’t been included in the ban wave yet. People with all different drives have been getting banned and new bans are still happening all the time.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/44 "2009-11-10T13:20:59Z")

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I’m staying unplugged til flash with the new firmware. Hopefully that makes me safe.

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/45 "2009-11-10T13:22:55Z")

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lol, ive been banned before, no biggie, been paying monthly anyways for live, keep forgetting to get a card, so if i get banned its not like im losing any money like last time lol

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**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/46 "2009-11-10T13:24:47Z")

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I’m still on the original Ixtreme 1.3… I havnt played any of the new 3rd wave games. Would I even be able too? Would I get banned? I have the 1.5 update, wondering if I should update. What do you guys think?

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/47 "2009-11-10T13:26:10Z")

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If youre gonna update, wait for 1.7

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/48 "2009-11-10T13:26:54Z")

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> [@BuickGN](#):
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> lol, ive been banned before, no biggie

Agreed, but I’d rather not just piss money away because I’m too impatient to wait a week or so for new firmware. I’m aware of the risks of playing a modded console, but right now it’s not a risk, it’s almost a guarantee. And it sounds like the solution is coming soon.

If you want to just keep playing and hoping you’ll be fine, :tup: for being stubborn I guess. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/49 "2009-11-10T18:51:15Z")

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yay…i was banned

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**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/50 "2009-11-10T19:00:31Z")

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> [@jrod0187](#):
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> I’m still on the original Ixtreme 1.3… I havnt played any of the new 3rd wave games. Would I even be able too? Would I get banned? I have the 1.5 update, wondering if I should update. What do you guys think?

I have 1.4 and cant play the 3rd wave games, wait for the new update

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/51 "2009-11-10T19:41:23Z")

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> [@SkunkApe](#):
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> yay…i was banned

u were banned?

wow i thought u would of been the last person on here to be banned.

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/52 "2009-11-11T04:34:01Z")

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> [@BuickGN](#):
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> u were banned?
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> wow i thought u would of been the last person on here to be banned.

lol…ah well. i had a good run. what…2 years? not too bad. just gotta buy another one now. But i’ll wait til 1.7 to flash it.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/53 "2009-11-11T05:27:41Z")

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Kevin will be banned soon.

[http://pinoycosplay.blogspot.com/2009/11/microsoft-bans-600k-xbox-live-accounts.html?zx=26a6341062b361c5](http://pinoycosplay.blogspot.com/2009/11/microsoft-bans-600k-xbox-live-accounts.html?zx=26a6341062b361c5)

The more I read on [xboxscene.com](http://xboxscene.com) the more clear it becomes that MS put some sort of firmware check in that last dashboard update. People are talking about hearing the drive spin up and go through some sort of test mode and they’re pretty much certain that’s when the console gets flagged.

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/54 "2009-11-11T05:34:12Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Kevin will be banned soon.
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> [Sensitive Content Warning](http://pinoycosplay.blogspot.com/2009/11/microsoft-bans-600k-xbox-live-accounts.html?zx=26a6341062b361c5)
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> The more I read on [xboxscene.com](http://xboxscene.com) the more clear it becomes that MS put some sort of firmware check in that last dashboard update. People are talking about hearing the drive spin up and go through some sort of test mode and they’re pretty much certain that’s when the console gets flagged.

not good.

ill be buying another xbox soon. i was gonna flash again, but was gonna wait til 1.7…but who knows if that will make any difference.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/55 "2009-11-11T05:49:52Z")

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Sounds like the new firmware that’s coming will fix the hole in the current firmware that MS is using to ID these consoles. It’s a cat and mouse game that will continue until MS finally finds a way to stop people from modding consoles. MS thought they did this with the “unmoddable” liteon drive and we saw how well that worked out for them. Until MS takes a page from the DirecTV handbook and takes their security hardware development entirely in house there will always be ways to get at the drive firmware.

The big advantage for modders is that console prices keep coming down while game prices remain the same, so unless MS finds a way to step up their banning waves it’s becomes easier and easier for modders to justify buying a new console every now and then.

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/56 "2009-11-11T05:51:25Z")

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yep yep.

now just gotta find another console. only downside is that it will prob be a liteon drive :(…which i cannot flash.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/57 "2009-11-11T05:52:36Z")

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> [@SkunkApe](#):
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> yep yep.
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> now just gotta find another console. only downside is that it will prob be a liteon drive :(…which i cannot flash.

I haven’t done a liteon yet but I thought most of the liteon’s could be software dumped now?

The console I’m playing right now is an unmodded liteon that I got as an RRoD replacement. At the time it couldn’t be modded so I stuck in on a shelf and picked up a used BenQ drive 360 from AFrank that I modded. That system has been offline since the day the banwave started. I was actually on live playing R6V2 when a buddy called and said he got banned. I shut down, unplugged, and haven’t even powered it on since. I won’t be powering it back on until I put 1.7 one it. If it ends up banned after all that I’ll have to mod the liteon one.

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**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/58 "2009-11-11T05:58:31Z")

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You guys are some serious video game junkies. Is it really worth it in the end?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/59 "2009-11-11T06:05:21Z")

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> [@ShiftDead](#):
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> You guys are some serious video game junkies. Is it really worth it in the end?

Lets see, I’ve had to buy one xbox because it was banned, and I paid around $100 for it.

I have about 40 games that should have cost approximately $50 each.

You do the math. 😉

EDIT: Or a better way to look at it… Every time I download a game I think is going to be sweet and end up playing it once because it sucks I end up with a $1 coaster, not a $50 coaster. Recently that included NSF\_Shift and Operation Flashpoint 2.

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/60 "2009-11-11T06:32:43Z")

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last i knew…u would need to either solder something on the board itself or use a special tool to flash the liteon.

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