# Just a heads up, xbox 360 live bans happening again

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 31, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543 "2009-10-31T06:58:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/61 "2009-11-11T06:52:50Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Lets see, I’ve had to buy one xbox because it was banned, and I paid around $100 for it.
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> I have about 40 games that should have cost approximately $50 each.
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> You do the math. 😉
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> EDIT: Or a better way to look at it… Every time I download a game I think is going to be sweet and end up playing it once because it sucks I end up with a $1 coaster, not a $50 coaster. Recently that included NSF\_Shift and Operation Flashpoint 2.

Meh, that is why I pick and choose what games I buy. I have yet to purchase a game I don’t like. Also love to just buy used, there are very few games that I feel I need to have right away.

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**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/62 "2009-11-11T07:12:04Z")

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I guess you could look at it. Makes me wanna have 2. A modded one to play the d/l games. Then a legit one to play online when I buy the ones I like lol

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/63 "2009-11-11T07:29:55Z")

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Just read through the jungleflasher tutorial and it sounds like the early liteon drives require an extractor kit (about $25 bucks), then there was a big batch of liteon that could you could read the keys right off the sata port, and in Aug 09 some new liteons started shipping that aren’t 100% support via any key extract method.

So those of you thinking about just getting a new box from walmart may be SOL, at least until these latest liteon’s get cracked.

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/64 "2009-11-11T09:37:30Z")

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jay, does your pussy smell?

lol just plug it in and stop being a bitch, gotta pay to play jay, live it up 🙂

and i dont care if im banned, ill just buy another and start over lol.

but as of last night playing forza online, no issues.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/65 "2009-11-11T10:18:24Z")

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> [@BuickGN](#):
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> lol just plug it in and stop being a bitch, gotta pay to play jay, live it up 🙂
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> and i dont care if im banned, ill just buy another and start over lol.
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> but as of last night playing forza online, no issues.

It’s really not that big a part of my life that I want to piss away $100-$150 away just because I can’t play for a little while. I’d rather just wait a week or so for the new firmware since there’s a good chance mine won’t get banned that way.

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/66 "2009-11-11T10:22:53Z")

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lol i hear ya jay, just bustin balls is all.

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**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/67 "2009-11-11T11:46:55Z")

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Hadn’t played in a week and turned my xbox on a min ago… banned… lol. Guess they are putting the ban hammer down. Oh well I dont go on live that much anyways.

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/68 "2009-11-11T12:09:49Z")

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lol wow all these bans, im sure im next

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/69 "2009-11-11T12:10:08Z")

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> [@jrod0187](#):
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> Hadn’t played in a week and turned my xbox on a min ago… banned… lol. Guess they are putting the ban hammer down. Oh well I dont go on live that much anyways.

jarrod, what FW did u have?

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**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/70 "2009-11-11T12:11:47Z")

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Whatever one you flashed me with… 1.3 I think. Was planning on updating it soon… lol.

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/71 "2009-11-11T12:21:04Z")

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fuck… i wanna know what the hell is causing these bannings.

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**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/72 "2009-11-11T12:52:28Z")

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> [@SkunkApe](#):
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> lol…ah well. i had a good run. what…2 years? not too bad. just gotta buy another one now. But i’ll wait til 1.7 to flash it.

I think this is pretty funny cause you me and Rob all got ours flashed around the same time frame if I’m not mistaken and now were all banned within a week… lol

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**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/73 "2009-11-11T12:55:11Z")

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hahah yeah and since that time i have been banned 2x and you guys have been banned 0. Now your all banned and im not, weird lol

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/74 "2009-11-11T13:01:58Z")

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> [@SkunkApe](#):
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> fuck… i wanna know what the hell is causing these bannings.

I’m 99% sure it’s a problem with all versions of the ixtreme firmware. c4eva pretty much admitted that when he said the new version of ixtreme he’s working on, called ixtreme LT or “light touch”, will have the bare minimum differences with stock firmware and will stop the bans.

Part of that dashboard update we all installed a couple weeks ago had some sort of test that gets run on the DVD drive and it flags you for banning. Tons of people have reported hearing the drive go through this test because it’s a sound the drive doesn’t normally make just reading disks.

It sounds like they aren’t willing to ban on a single fail, probably for fear of banning legit consoles. So it gets logged and soon enough the error 54424 gets set in the support system and the next time it fails the check bam, ban hammer.

It’s pretty clear that they are spooling the bans, probably to avoid overwhelming their tech support lines with script kiddies who modded with no clue of the consequences.

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**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/75 "2009-11-11T13:51:03Z")

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> [@BuickGN](#):
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> hahah yeah and since that time i have been banned 2x and you guys have been banned 0. Now your all banned and im not, weird lol

hahaha Didn’t know you were banned a 2nd time. Ouch. I knew it was coming sooner or later.  
I remember when I had the original Xbox with the Xecuter chip and I had to press the “eject” button to turn the chip off to play xbox live and when I just hit the “power” button it activated the mod chip. I accidentally played xbox live with the mod chip activated and not even 5 mins later during halo 2 I got banned. Interesting how quickly Microsoft comes up with these solutions. IMO… It will always be a constant battle with the hackers getting the upper hand for a while until Microsoft does and vice versa.

I also remember before live I was playing on game spy, is this even possible anymore… maybe an alternative for banned consoles?

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**Author:** ![Poose22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poose22/32/7252_2.png) [@Poose22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Poose22)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/76 "2009-11-11T21:55:18Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Just read through the jungleflasher tutorial and it sounds like the early liteon drives require an extractor kit (about $25 bucks), then there was a big batch of liteon that could you could read the keys right off the sata port, and in Aug 09 some new liteons started shipping that aren’t 100% support via any key extract method.
> 
> So those of you thinking about just getting a new box from walmart may be SOL, at least until these latest liteon’s get cracked.

yea the newer liteon drives dont need the kit/spear to read the key. you would just need the normal sata chipset. but the earlier versions of the liteon you would need the kit and spear to be able to read the key. a lot of the xboxs that are being sold now still have the older liteon drives. i just bought one last week and it still has the older liteon drive in it. hopefully c4eva releases the new firmware soon so i can flash it already. my main xbox did get banned as well, but it was worth it 🙂

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**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/77 "2009-11-11T22:03:18Z")

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Anyone want to sell their banned system for cheep?

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**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/78 "2009-11-11T22:05:46Z")

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I honestly had no idea that so many people hacked their xbox’s.

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**Author:** ![Poose22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poose22/32/7252_2.png) [@Poose22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Poose22)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/79 "2009-11-11T22:20:56Z")

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> [@fiend540](#):
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> Anyone want to sell their banned system for cheep?

i dont have mine anymore, otherwise i would’ve

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-a-heads-up-xbox-360-live-bans-happening-again/75543/80 "2009-11-12T10:14:13Z")

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> [@fiend540](#):
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> Anyone want to sell their banned system for cheep?

friend got his banned…i can find out if he wants to sell

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