# Just ordered a turbo kit for the accord... **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 27, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595 "2005-08-27T22:10:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/41 "2005-08-31T11:51:25Z")
> [@ZEXaccord](#): > > ok ok…so what about a Greedy E manage…even the old one would do? e-manage = poop ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/42 "2005-08-31T12:00:02Z")
why? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/43 "2005-08-31T22:57:54Z")
> [@crudinyourface](#): > > Just a side note, the SAFC isnt going to do a whole lot of good with those 440cc injectors. Unless your stock injectors are in the 300cc range, which I dont know, then the SAFC wont be able to compensate. The SAFC is only good for 50% over stock. You couldnt control 440’s, properly at least. even at 50% it would advance timing so far it wouldn’t matter how rich it was. I think when I had the afc jay tuned it to rich af ratio and didn’t go any farther than -35% ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/44 "2005-08-31T22:58:26Z")
> [@ZEXaccord](#): > > why? 1. pain to get software 2. doesn’t do much in way of compensation ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/45 "2005-09-01T02:02:40Z")
what the fuck is an F23? Ive heard of F22’s. 2.2L SOHC VTEC that went in Preludes and Accords. And then there’s H23’s (DOHC Non-VTEC)… never heard of an F23. ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/46 "2005-09-01T05:30:44Z")
F23 SOHC Vtec…H23 different head. May interchangeable parts between the three motors, including transmissions. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/47 "2005-09-01T06:44:09Z")
run an p13 ecu (converted to obd1) and run the safc. Its going to be mad rich no matter what, so there’s no worry in blowing it up. ---
**Author:** ![rusty240det](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rusty240det/32/5946_2.png) [@rusty240det](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rusty240det)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/48 "2005-09-01T08:44:52Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > run an p13 ecu (converted to obd1) and run the safc. Its going to be mad rich no matter what, so there’s no worry in blowing it up. if you’re going to convert to obd1, which he already said he didn’t want to do, why in the fuck would you run a P13 ecu? why not just tune a computer then for 440s? ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/49 "2005-09-01T09:17:57Z")
NO OBD1 for me. This is my daily driver and I need it to pass inspection/emissions. I think that my stock injectors are 220cc. OK…BACK ON SUBJECT! POLL: (P.S) only looking for 6 PSI till my other F23 is built! 1. Trade 440cc injector for 300ish and use the SAFC w/ timing retardation. 2. Use stock injectors with the vortech FMU he is giving me as well. Will stock injectors provide enough fuel for 6 psi with the FMU? This may be what I do until the build is done if the injectors can provide enough fuel for 6psi. They seem to do ok with the nitrous. Question:The kit comes with a Walbro(sp) high rate fuel pump, so this will be installed the day I get the kit(tuesday). There should be no issues with JUST installing the pump at first correct? Once the F23 is built I will be going AEM EMS so I can still pass emissions. I don’t want to be worried every year what the hell I’m going to do for emission. By the way…thanks for the info in this thread…and not too many rediculous comments! ---
**Author:** ![Steel\_City\_Supra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Steel\_City\_Supra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Steel_City_Supra)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/50 "2005-09-01T09:19:36Z")
> [@vw16vcabby](#): > > explain this please… Im just speaking from the experiences ive had with the stuff. Theoretically, it would work. But 20hp?? You cant feel shit when you kick that on. Waste of time/money. I did fill mine with c02 too, and it didnt do anything. Plus the supply of it goes out after a few pulls. Maybe you will have better luck, but it didnt do anything to my m3. Maybe youll be able to tell on a extremely hot day, where you spray it and instead of being heat soaked, it will go back to running normally. ---
**Author:** ![SlowCivic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@SlowCivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlowCivic)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/51 "2005-09-01T10:25:54Z")
> [@ZEXaccord](#): > > NO OBD1 for me. This is my daily driver and I need it to pass inspection/emissions. I think that my stock injectors are 220cc. OK…BACK ON SUBJECT! POLL: > (P.S) only looking for 6 PSI till my other F23 is built! > > 1. Trade 440cc injector for 300ish and use the SAFC w/ timing retardation. > 2. Use stock injectors with the vortech FMU he is giving me as well. Will stock injectors provide enough fuel for 6 psi with the FMU? This may be what I do until the build is done if the injectors can provide enough fuel for 6psi. They seem to do ok with the nitrous. > > Question:The kit comes with a Walbro(sp) high rate fuel pump, so this will be installed the day I get the kit(tuesday). There should be no issues with JUST installing the pump at first correct? > > Once the F23 is built I will be going AEM EMS so I can still pass emissions. I don’t want to be worried every year what the hell I’m going to do for emission. > > By the way…thanks for the info in this thread…and not too many rediculous comments! FYI Aem wont pass emissions its still is a stand alone … not a factory ecu … dont be a puss race it or leave it alone 💤 ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/52 "2005-09-01T10:30:09Z")
LOL…anyways… Once I get out of Robert Morris then I shall build a worthy race car…now this is more just of a hobby I like to tinker with…thanks for your info on the AEM EMS though ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/53 "2005-09-01T11:41:19Z")
RMU eh? 🤣 SOHC = waste of fucking time ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/54 "2005-09-01T12:22:44Z")
your a waste of my fucking time, quit postign worthless responses to make you counter higher…pretty patheic you do that just for another digit ---
**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/55 "2005-09-01T12:32:42Z")
> [@SlowCivic](#): > > FYI > dont be a puss race it or leave it alone 💤 x2 ---
**Author:** ![rusty240det](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rusty240det/32/5946_2.png) [@rusty240det](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rusty240det)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/56 "2005-09-01T13:09:26Z")
> [@ZEXaccord](#): > > NO OBD1 for me. This is my daily driver and I need it to pass inspection/emissions. I think that my stock injectors are 220cc. OK…BACK ON SUBJECT! POLL: > (P.S) only looking for 6 PSI till my other F23 is built! > > 1. Trade 440cc injector for 300ish and use the SAFC w/ timing retardation. > 2. Use stock injectors with the vortech FMU he is giving me as well. Will stock injectors provide enough fuel for 6 psi with the FMU? This may be what I do until the build is done if the injectors can provide enough fuel for 6psi. They seem to do ok with the nitrous. > > Question:The kit comes with a Walbro(sp) high rate fuel pump, so this will be installed the day I get the kit(tuesday). There should be no issues with JUST installing the pump at first correct? > > Once the F23 is built I will be going AEM EMS so I can still pass emissions. I don’t want to be worried every year what the hell I’m going to do for emission. > > By the way…thanks for the info in this thread…and not too many rediculous comments! aem will not allow you to pass emissions with the OBD2 scan tool that they use here in PA. seriously. to keep it OBD2 and be most reliable, run the stock injectors, a walbro 255HP pump, a vortech 12:1 FMU, and an MSD BTM ignition. The S-AFC is garbage for anything more than 10% adjustments each way. if you want to understand more about what i’m talking about…read this [http://www.hondata.com/techk20boostprimer.html](http://www.hondata.com/techk20boostprimer.html) granted its for the K-series but look for the part about piggybacks…and you’ll understand why leaning out the stock computer with the afc is a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/57 "2005-09-01T14:07:53Z")
No that is the answer I have been…thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/58 "2005-09-01T18:14:07Z")
RMU : swing down to sewickley and race me !!! ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/59 "2005-09-02T13:58:29Z")
> [@ZEXaccord](#): > > your a waste of my fucking time, quit postign worthless responses to make you counter higher…pretty patheic you do that just for another digit 11,500+ and still going stong. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2005, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered-a-turbo-kit-for-the-accord/176595/60 "2005-09-04T17:45:38Z")
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