# just ordered... **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 6, 2004, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887 "2004-12-06T10:23:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/21 "2004-12-08T19:31:28Z")
r u getting adjustable stuff or not a company called UMI has good prices on non adjustable panhard rods and LCA’a and relocation brackets!!! ---
**Author:** ![lt1power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea666f/32.png) [@lt1power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lt1power)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/22 "2004-12-09T07:10:57Z")
> [@jcxcr4000](#): > > not to be a dick but man will it suck when my 100hp civic handles about a 1000x better and doesnt even have a grand in the suspension lol > > fbody = fast in straight line > > civic = handles good in the bends i understand this but by doin this my car becomes more of a jack of all trades instead of a one trick pony. Have u ever ridden in a f-body that could handle? If you’ve ever been up to the North Park auto x u will know that one of the fastest guys there is in a f- body. ---
**Author:** ![lt1power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea666f/32.png) [@lt1power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lt1power)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/23 "2004-12-09T07:13:37Z")
> [@95greenZ](#): > > r u getting adjustable stuff or not > > a company called UMI has good prices on non adjustable panhard rods and LCA’a and relocation brackets!!! i have an unadjustable bmr panhard right now. I will be ordering an adjustable one though due to the width of my tires. I also am not relocation brackets, I’ll just adjust it with an adjustable tq arm. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/24 "2004-12-09T07:36:52Z")
> [@lt1power](#): > > I also am not relocation brackets, I’ll just adjust it with an adjustable tq arm. hun? ---
**Author:** ![lt1power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea666f/32.png) [@lt1power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lt1power)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/25 "2004-12-09T07:43:44Z")
I am not going to get relocator brackets. Sorry didn’t realize i forgot a word? Starting to type like you. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/26 "2004-12-09T08:07:44Z")
u cant…to much adjusting on a tq. arm will be bad for ur rear end…u cant go below -2\* b/c that puts too much wear on the pinon angle…and will fuck ur rear end up…better get those reloctoin brackets…and adjust the control arms to be bigger!!! ---
**Author:** ![lt1power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea666f/32.png) [@lt1power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lt1power)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/27 "2004-12-09T09:01:25Z")
2\* is all i should need ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/28 "2004-12-09T09:03:10Z")
> [@95greenZ](#): > > u cant…to much adjusting on a tq. arm will be bad for ur rear end…u cant go below -2\* b/c that puts too much wear on the pinon angle…and will fuck ur rear end up…better get those reloctoin brackets…and adjust the control arms to be bigger!!! i run mine -4!!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![oneslowbowtie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d78d45/32.png) [@oneslowbowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oneslowbowtie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/29 "2004-12-09T09:08:33Z")
I could go into a long post on how pinion angle works, but I dont feel like typing ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/30 "2004-12-09T09:13:44Z")
> [@oneslowbowtie](#): > > I could go into a long post on how pinion angle works, but I dont feel like typing back to 0 then!!! 🍺 ---
**Author:** ![oneslowbowtie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d78d45/32.png) [@oneslowbowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oneslowbowtie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/31 "2004-12-09T09:21:32Z")
> [@8.1crew](#): > > back to 0 then!!! 🍺 LOL… ---
**Author:** ![lt1power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea666f/32.png) [@lt1power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lt1power)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/32 "2004-12-09T09:59:42Z")
> [@8.1crew](#): > > i run mine -4!!! 🙂 do u use relocator brackets? ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/33 "2004-12-09T10:04:30Z")
yes,the only way to go!avg.60’ are low 1.5’s ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/34 "2004-12-09T10:20:06Z")
> [@8.1crew](#): > > i run mine -4!!! 🙂 -2 if u drive it daily they say…if its a race car…hell ya -4 ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/35 "2004-12-09T10:21:35Z")
> [@lt1power](#): > > do u use relocator brackets? i do…and then put adjustable control arms on…and make them bigger…the higher the center of inertia is…the better the traction out of the hole!!! ---
**Author:** ![oneslowbowtie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d78d45/32.png) [@oneslowbowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oneslowbowtie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/36 "2004-12-09T10:51:21Z")
> [@95greenZ](#): > > i do…and then put adjustable control arms on…and make them bigger…the higher the center of inertia is…the better the traction out of the hole!!! Actually the higher it is, the quicker you get foward bite= traction. So actually you have foward bite not traction. Traction is done through your tires not suspension. ---
**Author:** ![oneslowbowtie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d78d45/32.png) [@oneslowbowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oneslowbowtie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/37 "2004-12-09T11:04:45Z")
so the higher your pinion angle . quiker your suspension works. but set up pinion angle to high and your suspenion will work for about 4 feet and quit. Tires break loose… Fuck it this some hard shit to explain. but believe me. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/38 "2004-12-09T11:36:46Z")
wrong,lots of car drive daily at -4,all u need adj, is touqe arm & panhard!u dont want ur rear high! ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/39 "2004-12-09T11:46:57Z")
bmr and a couple other sites recomend for daily driving that you use -2 degress…im not going against you at all brain…but thats what they siad if ur driving it every day!!! and u dont want the rear high…ur just want the center of inertia(sp) or the CI to be above the stock setting ---
**Author:** ![oneslowbowtie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d78d45/32.png) [@oneslowbowtie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oneslowbowtie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887/40 "2004-12-09T11:47:59Z")
> [@8.1crew](#): > > wrong,lots of car drive daily at -4,all u need adj, is touqe arm & panhard!u dont want ur rear high! How? On a f-body you change the pinion angle that way. But leaf spring and bar cars ( coil spring) 4 link cars are adjusted a different way. to acheive pinion angle. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-ordered/170887.md?page=3)