# K20 vrs 2jzgte vrs ls1 **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 18, 2007, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099 "2007-02-18T09:35:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![fico](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fico/32/6038_2.png) [@fico](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fico)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/61 "2007-02-19T05:24:09Z")
> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/1618): > > fuck that thing…fast is fast…but at the end of the day you will still be driving a pile of shit. Pretty bad you have to mod that thing and gut it to run a low 13…it claimed 400 hp…ok…and before all you fags start saying there are civics that can smoke my firetud…I dont give a fuck…never did never will civic never claimed 400hp…thats the supra…civic had 203whp n/a ---
**Author:** ![JackdUp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jackdup/32/6015_2.png) [@JackdUp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JackdUp)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/62 "2007-02-19T05:26:43Z")
> [@WTB: Headunit](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-headunit/28093/9): > > In the spring I’ll be happy to show you how slow civics are!!! > not useing rice but corn oil!!! Can I play too? ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/63 "2007-02-19T05:29:43Z")
> [@JackdUp"](#): > > Can I play too? nope ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/64 "2007-02-19T05:33:26Z")
who freakin cares ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/65 "2007-02-19T06:25:44Z")
I like the green wheels fuckers. Definately more of a West Coast thing than east…it will come this way soon. I got a wheel whore buddy that got some orange wheels. That civic \> your trans slam will ever be. I would def. take the supra over the civic. Who wouldn’t about 10x the value/potential. ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/66 "2007-02-19T06:37:03Z")
> [@Any Bodyshop Guys in here? extra hands needed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-bodyshop-guys-in-here-extra-hands-needed/28163/2): > > civic never claimed 400hp…thats the supra…civic had 203whp n/a ahhh…well that supra should have walked it pretty hard…chances are the gay ass ricer made that shit up…and it was just a N/A/ b/c a stock supra would be neck and neck with it. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/67 "2007-02-19T06:57:05Z")
> [@P-Shop request. (car color change)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/p-shop-request-car-color-change/18825/94): > > That civic \> your trans slam will ever be. um, idk about that, its a n/a civic running 13s ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/68 "2007-02-19T07:00:03Z")
I will never understand why people think it is cool to have a fast civic…for the $ there are much cooler/better cars to build. I think it is the “I beat you with a civic/pile of shit that is not supposed fast” mentality…which is pretty gay ---
**Author:** ![JackdUp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jackdup/32/6015_2.png) [@JackdUp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JackdUp)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/69 "2007-02-19T07:31:16Z")
We can debate FWD versus RWD versus AWD all day, but basically… 1. start with a light Civic shell 2. GSR swap doubles output of stock (or more depending on model) 3. some extra small parts to make it start and run. Weight to horsepower ratio minimized means more fun. It takes half the HP in a 2000 lb car compared to a 4000 lb car to get the same weight to HP ratio. For less money you can make a lighter car go faster? (because more HP -\> more money) IOW, 500 HP in a 2000 lb car is \> than 500 HP in 4000 lb car. ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/70 "2007-02-19T07:37:57Z")
> [@\*\*\*Need some more wheel ideas... \*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-more-wheel-ideas/27713/42): > > We can debate FWD versus RWD versus AWD all day, but basically… > > 1. start with a light Civic shell > 2. GSR swap doubles output of stock (or more depending on model) > 3. some extra small parts to make it start and run. > > Weight to horsepower ratio minimized means more fun. It takes half the HP in a 2000 lb car compared to a 4000 lb car to get the same weight to HP ratio. > > For less money you can make a lighter car go faster? (because more HP -\> more money) > > IOW, 500 HP in a 2000 lb car is \> than 500 HP in 4000 lb car. Ya…who cares…look at it…fuck I’ll buy a Omni, chevette, or a metro and swap a motor in it and make it fast…who gives a shit…it is a joke of a car with a fast motor…to each his own tho i guess ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/71 "2007-02-19T07:42:27Z")
Different Strokes for different folks i mean come on guys…if we all the same shit it be super gay i give props to anything fast whatever it maybe … ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/72 "2007-02-19T07:44:38Z")
> [@3rd Man in history to ever walk on water!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3rd-man-in-history-to-ever-walk-on-water/28119/23): > > Different Strokes for different folks > > i mean come on guys…if we all the same shit it be super gay > > i give props to anything fast whatever it maybe … I’ll buy that…fast is fast…but some things that people make fast boggle my mind ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/73 "2007-02-19T07:46:18Z")
> [@3rd Man in history to ever walk on water!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3rd-man-in-history-to-ever-walk-on-water/28119/24): > > I’ll buy that…fast is fast…but some things that people make fast boggle my mind i DEF agree…theres always gonna be them guys out there that u look at there car and just ask WHY ! ! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/74 "2007-02-19T08:09:22Z")
Civics make great street cars. I have found that with honda parts being readily available new and used for cheap makes a build much easier. If I could afford to build up a SS LS1 I prob would but still wouldn’t DD it b/c parts/gas/RWD isn’t practical. Plus the look on a SS owners face when a turd civic beats them is priceless. I would say that there are SO MANY factors on what you are building this thread could go on indefinitely. Again, a car is what it is, and there is a reason for what it is. EDIT: BTW Faster is faster. If you don’t like a car for what it is then build yours faster and don’t bitch b/c a civic beat you and its a turd. ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/75 "2007-02-19T08:35:56Z")
> [@bics56"](#): > > I will never understand why people think it is cool to have a fast civic…for the $ there are much cooler/better cars to build. I think it is the “I beat you with a civic/pile of shit that is not supposed fast” mentality…which is pretty gay consistant 11.9s for 2800 consistant 11.0’s with a few tens 5500 dollars balling up street bikes on the street priceless and still get 30mpg… do what you want I’ll do mine… ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/76 "2007-02-19T08:38:29Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/28161/3): > > Civics make great street cars. I have found that with honda parts being readily available new and used for cheap makes a build much easier. If I could afford to build up a SS LS1 I prob would but still wouldn’t DD it b/c parts/gas/RWD isn’t practical. **Plus the look on a SS owners face when a turd civic beats them is priceless**. I would say that there are SO MANY factors on what you are building this thread could go on indefinitely. Again, a car is what it is, and there is a reason for what it is. > > EDIT: BTW Faster is faster. If you don’t like a car for what it is then build yours faster and don’t bitch b/c a civic beat you and its a turd. You make good points and most are valid. But I have always liked cars built for performance and not economy. That is why I wonder why people make econoboxes fast…but to each his own. As for the statement that I bolded…yeah there are dudes that are stunned but most people know pretty much anything can be fast. I personally could give two shits less if some econobox with motor work beat me…In the end everyone does what they enjoy and if some people like making a turdmobile fast and getting a boner when they smoke a car that is faster stock for stock then cool…everyone is different. I prefer cars built for perfomance not economy. ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/77 "2007-02-19T08:39:43Z")
> [@3rd Man in history to ever walk on water!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3rd-man-in-history-to-ever-walk-on-water/28119/24): > > I’ll buy that…fast is fast…but some things that people make fast boggle my mind so if i buy an s2000 and make it fast you’ll except that? no you wont becuz its still a honda and you’ll still talk out of your ass at the end of the day becuz your a domestic owner ps: for you domestic guys that dont talk out of your ass, thank you ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/78 "2007-02-19T08:40:27Z")
> [@19's are gone.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/19s-are-gone/27590/23): > > consistant 11.9s for 2800 > consistant 11.0’s with a few tens 5500 dollars > balling up street bikes on the street priceless > and still get 30mpg… > > do what you want I’ll do mine… congrats…I give props to anyhting fast…but those cars are still jokes to me fast or not. Just b/c somone can make a car that looks like shit run fast times to me doesnt mean it is cool…it just means it is fast. ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/79 "2007-02-19T08:45:01Z")
> [@wrayzor"](#): > > so if i buy an s2000 and make it fast you’ll except that? no you wont becuz its still a honda and you’ll still talk out of your ass at the end of the day becuz your a domestic owner > > ps: for you domestic guys that dont talk out of your ass, thank you S2000 is a decent ride…they were built with performance in mind and i like them a little. I am a very simple person…dont take me for some douchbag…If I do not like a car and think it is total assturds then I could could care less if it is fast. But everyone has their own thing…some like to build up turds and then say “Ohh shit you got smoked by a econobox” To me that isnt the coolest thing to do. Pretty simple concept. Yes I am a domestic guy but I do like imports…most are ones that are built with performance in mind. I would love to have a mildly modded G35 for a DD. ---
**Author:** ![fico](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fico/32/6038_2.png) [@fico](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fico)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/80 "2007-02-19T08:46:06Z")
what about the Si modles of civics there “proformance minded” [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099.md?page=5)