# K20 vrs 2jzgte vrs ls1 **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 18, 2007, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099 "2007-02-18T09:35:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/81 "2007-02-19T08:47:35Z")
no no no you got your the formula all wrong, ugly x fast = level of cool ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/82 "2007-02-19T08:48:05Z")
> [@HALO FREAKS ENTER v.holyshitmay16thneedstobetomorrow](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/halo-freaks-enter-v-holyshitmay16thneedstobetomorrow/28166/3): > > what about the Si modles of civics there “proformance minded” Those I do like a little…I actually give some props to those. ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/83 "2007-02-19T08:51:33Z")
IF I was in a SS and got beat by a civic I would be pissed If I was in a civic and got beat by a SS I would be pissed Whats the difference? All about budgets. Once I graduate school I am going to be in the market for a Porsche, but when/if I smoke someone they will preach its b/c its a 70K+ car. I will know I could build a car for under 10K just as fast. Built not bought. When you build a car gives you a sense of accomplishment and you can build it exactly what you want it for. \ ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/84 "2007-02-19T08:53:44Z")
> [@sleeper on a track vid!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sleeper-on-a-track-vid/28106/11): > > Those I do like a little…I actually give some props to those. The EG’s came with the SAME EXACT motor in the SI as the EX. So why do u like them better exactly? b/c they say SI on the back? lol V-Techk ownzz you ---
**Author:** ![fico](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fico/32/6038_2.png) [@fico](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fico)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/85 "2007-02-19T08:55:14Z")
didnt the old si’s also have beefed up suspentions and such? ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/86 "2007-02-19T08:56:04Z")
> [@:tdown: to Mike Smith GMC/Buick/Pontiac](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tdown-to-mike-smith-gmc-buick-pontiac/28128/107): > > The EG’s came with the SAME EXACT motor in the SI as the EX. So why do u like them better exactly? b/c they say SI on the back? lol V-Techk ownzz you i think he means the new si’s ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/87 "2007-02-19T09:05:50Z")
I like the new Si’s…they are decent looking cars and were built with performance in mind…pretty simple. ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/88 "2007-02-19T09:08:26Z")
> [@Audi got some BBS wheels](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/audi-got-some-bbs-wheels/28176/2): > > congrats…I give props to anyhting fast…but those cars are still jokes to me fast or not. Just b/c somone can make a car that looks like shit run fast times to me doesnt mean it is cool…it just means it is fast. > [@Finally back together...again \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-back-together-again-pics/28141/40): > > S2000 is a decent ride…they were built with performance in mind and i like them a little. I am a very simple person…dont take me for some douchbag…If I do not like a car and think it is total assturds then I could could care less if it is fast. But everyone has their own thing…some like to build up turds and then say “Ohh shit you got smoked by a econobox” To me that isnt the coolest thing to do. Pretty simple concept. Yes I am a domestic guy but I do like imports…most are ones that are built with performance in mind. I would love to have a mildly modded G35 for a DD. all i keep hearing is blah blah blah im a dirty whore ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/89 "2007-02-19T10:05:15Z")
> [@\*\*\*Need some more wheel ideas... \*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-some-more-wheel-ideas/27713/42): > > IOW, 500 HP in a 2000 lb car is \> than 500 HP in 4000 lb car. yes, but for some reason, tho when ppl have 500 hp in a 4000lb car, the also do things like gear changes, or stalls or things of that nature, and normal are in rwd cars, which not being a dick, but hook better, in the 1/4 mile. soo yet 500hp civics or fwd cars, normally wont pull the same time my car would with 500hp. show me a civic that dyno’d 360 hp, with a stock clutch, untuned, full weight, and still ran a 12.2, u can prob find em, but its not that common. like i say, fast is fast. but when dragging, for the best u want something RWD ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/90 "2007-02-19T10:08:01Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/28161/3): > > If I could afford to build up a SS LS1 I prob would but still wouldn’t DD it b/c parts/gas/RWD isn’t practical. > > EDIT: BTW Faster is faster. If you don’t like a car for what it is then build yours faster and don’t bitch b/c a civic beat you and its a turd. do u understand its not that much moning to spend to make an ls1 fast, the parts are plenty and cheap. i DD my SS, when it was a low 12 cam only car, and im going to DD it still when im done with teh motor > [@19's are gone.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/19s-are-gone/27590/23): > > consistant 11.9s for 2800 > consistant 11.0’s with a few tens 5500 dollars > balling up street bikes on the street priceless > and still get 30mpg… > > do what you want I’ll do mine… damn thats sweet, i hope to be at teh same with you, with around 5, to 5500 dollars and hope to be hitting low 11s. and the goal of high 10s ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/91 "2007-02-19T10:09:28Z")
is this still a thread? ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/92 "2007-02-19T10:10:56Z")
> [@87 firebird built w/juice/slicks vs. nissan b14 turbo w/o spray/snowtires](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/87-firebird-built-w-juice-slicks-vs-nissan-b14-turbo-w-o-spray-snowtires/28064/80): > > is this still a thread? are u still letting dan be a goalie? ---
**Author:** ![JackdUp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jackdup/32/6015_2.png) [@JackdUp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JackdUp)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/93 "2007-02-19T10:48:12Z")
> [@Got a ride in a 2007 Corvette Z06 today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-a-ride-in-a-2007-corvette-z06-today/28162/10): > > yes, but for some reason, tho when ppl have 500 hp in a 4000lb car, the also do things like gear changes, or stalls or things of that nature, and normal are in rwd cars, which not being a dick, but hook better, in the 1/4 mile. soo yet 500hp civics or fwd cars, normally wont pull the same time my car would with 500hp. show me a civic that dyno’d 360 hp, with a stock clutch, untuned, full weight, and still ran a 12.2, u can prob find em, but its not that common. > like i say, fast is fast. but when dragging, for the best u want something RWD I confirm that everything above is true to the best of my knowledge as well and you know I’ve been around (Domestic) RWD enough to know these things as well. But nothing is funnier than catching a street bike off guard with a 3rd gear boosted pull and putting cars on it. That’s where the weight to HP thing really comes into play…and of course it means nothing if you can’t get it to the ground effectively. If I can make it go 11.x seconds in the quarter mile, boosted, then hey, that’s an added bonus. If it goes 10.x, then w00t!!! Again, you said it too…fast is fast and build what like and don’t worry about the next guy…at least until there’s money on the line and you’re racing them. Then worry! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/94 "2007-02-19T10:52:07Z")
> [@Finally back together...again \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-back-together-again-pics/28141/43): > > damn thats sweet, i hope to be at teh same with you, with around 5, to 5500 dollars and hope to be hitting low 11s. and the goal of high 10s that 5,000 was including price of car! rwd def has a huge 330’ mark advantage at any power level may fastest 330 was like a high 4 is decent for 500hp fwd, but if my car was rwd is would around 3.something it would drasticly cut down ets, i have a big turbo this year, im not sure my car will make enough exaust pressure to spin the damn thing…im shooting for 150mph traps if i get there, the 9 sec thing should be there somewhere if i can afford a diff and good axles i will drive to and from the track 50+ miles away ---
**Author:** ![YellowZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/edb3f5/32.png) [@YellowZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/YellowZ)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/95 "2007-02-19T10:59:45Z")
In before the lock. I am calling out the 85 Trans Am vs. my miata for slowest quarter mile. That is unless Shalerpunk rolls out in his Reno ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/96 "2007-02-19T11:52:49Z")
fast is fast… or is it. you drive an ls1 camaro, you get stomped by a lambo… ok, its a lambo you drive an ls1 camaro, you get stomped by a rusted out, multicolor primer civic… are you going to have the same feelings that you had when the lambo stomped you? no. /point ---
**Author:** ![85TransAm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/e68b1a/32.png) [@85TransAm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/85TransAm)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/97 "2007-02-19T12:19:26Z")
> [@Finally back together...again \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-back-together-again-pics/28141/44): > > In before the lock. I am calling out the 85 Trans Am vs. my miata for slowest quarter mile. That is unless Shalerpunk rolls out in his Reno how slow is your 1/4? ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/98 "2007-02-19T12:34:17Z")
I dident go to many T&T’s but the last one i was at i raced some blue ls1, my first time around, on radials he pulled me out of the hole a little…( a good bit) then i put the power on…I was talking to him after he said he haid over 20,000 in his setup…i felt bad for the poor guy…he was a pretty cool dude…my next pass was on the slicks…went 10.8@130 it was a sloppy pass then my friend drove my car home because his broke… im not real sure why i am sharing this story…i guess from gearheads post and rusted/mutlicolord civic thingy… ---
**Author:** ![YellowZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/edb3f5/32.png) [@YellowZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/YellowZ)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/99 "2007-02-19T12:36:12Z")
I don’t know. Its a stock engined 130hp autocrosser. I would be surprised by it if it was in the 16’s ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099/100 "2007-02-19T12:36:41Z")
> [@Finally back together...again \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-back-together-again-pics/28141/44): > > In before the lock. I am calling out the 85 Trans Am vs. my miata for slowest quarter mile. That is unless Shalerpunk rolls out in his Reno 🤣 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/k20-vrs-2jzgte-vrs-ls1/188099.md?page=6)