# KA(t) ....what to do...

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [October 27, 2004, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860 "2004-10-27T10:42:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![phat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/phat)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/1 "2004-10-27T10:42:29Z")

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I`m new here… yo.

lil `bout myself…

i currently own a 1990 300Z 2+2 and a 1990 240sx coup.

the 240 will be my winter car (don`t cringe), but i want to make it fun for the snow....i want a borderline "can`t drive" in the winter 240…lol

What i mean by that is i simply want to get a turbo set up going on the Stock KA. Who here has it done, and if i`m doing this on a junk yard budget, what should i expect ? as far as parts/reliability.

Thanks guys/gals.  
Pat

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/2 "2004-10-27T11:10:42Z")

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You would need:

some sort of piggy back/engine management  
larger injectors  
fmu  
maybe fuel pump  
side mount intercooler  
turbo  
manifold  
downpipe  
micellaneous fittings  
turbo flange  
wastegate if turbo not internally wastegated  
colder spark plugs  
maybe bigger exaust  
blow off valve

I’m probably forgetting a few things. Check out this site for more info. You should also post your intro in the new member’s section.

[www.ka-t.org](http://www.ka-t.org)

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**Author:** ![phat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/phat)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/3 "2004-10-27T11:29:25Z")

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^^^^Thanks, I have a general knowledge on what parts i need.

I wasn`t going to do much to the innerds…ie: injectors. nor was i planning on u/g-ing the fuel pump either.

This will be just a 6-7psi set-up for a little bit of boost, i plan on selling it in the spring for some fun mods on the 300Z…or depending, i may sell the Z and go SR20 in the spring…

Ultimatly i was wondering about reliability. If i just go junk yard style on the turbo set up (miscellanious parts from varried applications), with STOCK innerds, how will this effect my engine… i know it won`t effect it in a good way, but should i expect a mass breakdown…or should it be reliable enough to do what i want it to do?

I just don`t want to drop a G on a crappy boost system and then cook the engine… please keep in mind i have no intensions of doing anything to the innerds of the engine.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Jesse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@Jesse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jesse)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/4 "2004-10-27T11:33:06Z")

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> [@s14\_2Nv](#):
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> You would need:
> 
> some sort of piggy back/engine management  
> larger injectors  
> fmu  
> maybe fuel pump  
> side mount intercooler  
> turbo  
> manifold  
> downpipe  
> micellaneous fittings  
> turbo flange  
> wastegate if turbo not internally wastegated  
> colder spark plugs  
> maybe bigger exaust  
> blow off valve
> 
> I’m probably forgetting a few things. Check out this site for more info. You should also post your intro in the new member’s section.
> 
> [www.ka-t.org](http://www.ka-t.org)

go buy yourself a turbo volvo parts car and make sure the turbo is in good condition

make yourself a manifold  
you dont NEED a fuel management computer unless you want to idle smooth  
find a turbo car with good injectors and buy them second hand  
make yourself a manifold with t3 flange  
you can use volvo downpipe, volvo intercooler, volvo rad,volvo rad overflow, volvo bov(sounds mean)

now i dont know if your serious or if you know what your doing

but these can be had for under $1000

if you go fmu look into a cheap device called megasquirt fuel and spark

if you want to see teh car im talking about, its the charcoal hatch in my mini video in car chat section

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/5 "2004-10-27T11:55:31Z")

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> [@phat](#):
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> ^^^^Thanks, I have a general knowledge on what parts i need.
> 
> I wasn`t going to do much to the innerds…ie: injectors. nor was i planning on u/g-ing the fuel pump either.
> 
> This will be just a 6-7psi set-up for a little bit of boost, i plan on selling it in the spring for some fun mods on the 300Z…or depending, i may sell the Z and go SR20 in the spring…
> 
> Ultimatly i was wondering about reliability. If i just go junk yard style on the turbo set up (miscellanious parts from varried applications), with STOCK innerds, how will this effect my engine… i know it won`t effect it in a good way, but should i expect a mass breakdown…or should it be reliable enough to do what i want it to do?
> 
> I just don`t want to drop a G on a crappy boost system and then cook the engine… please keep in mind i have no intensions of doing anything to the innerds of the engine.
> 
> Thanks!

You will need to upgrade injectors to run 6-7 psi. Injectors are not internals, they are external.

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**Author:** ![phat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/phat)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/6 "2004-10-27T12:43:10Z")

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^^^ True enough… thanks

good info …ill checkout the kat site too.

thanks again.

Pat

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**Author:** ![MBs13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MBs13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MBs13)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/7 "2004-10-28T07:19:23Z")

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so its possible to have a turbo done for under $1000 for the KA?? Sounds appealing. I’d totally do it for now and then upgrade later when I have more flow. More details would be cool on the charcoal hatch :thumleft:

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/8 "2004-10-28T07:45:42Z")

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> [@2slo240](#):
>
> go buy yourself a turbo volvo parts car and make sure the turbo is in good condition
> 
> make yourself a manifold  
> you dont NEED a fuel management computer unless you want to idle smooth  
> find a turbo car with good injectors and buy them second hand  
> make yourself a manifold with t3 flange  
> you can use volvo downpipe, volvo intercooler, volvo rad,volvo rad overflow, volvo bov(sounds mean)
> 
> now i dont know if your serious or if you know what your doing
> 
> but these can be had for under $1000
> 
> if you go fmu look into a cheap device called megasquirt fuel and spark
> 
> if you want to see teh car im talking about, its the charcoal hatch in my mini video in car chat section

You can also use dsm bov, turbo, smic but you might need some custom piping. Without engine management you will idle like shit. ka rad should be fine for a low boost application too.

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**Author:** ![phat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/phat)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/9 "2004-10-28T08:08:27Z")

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i`ve got a T3 and a stock WRX turbo availible…

the WRX i think it`s a G20TG or something of the sort. The nice thing is it`s oil cooled…alot more $$ to get it working efficiently though… $250 for that one…under 10k on it.

the T3 i can get for $300 and spins perfect, no play at all…kms unknown…

anyone on this forum with a KA(t) ?

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/10 "2004-10-28T08:46:22Z")

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> [@phat](#):
>
> i`ve got a T3 and a stock WRX turbo availible…
> 
> the WRX i think it`s a G20TG or something of the sort. The nice thing is it`s oil cooled…alot more $$ to get it working efficiently though… $250 for that one…under 10k on it.
> 
> the T3 i can get for $300 and spins perfect, no play at all…kms unknown…
> 
> anyone on this forum with a KA(t) ?

There are currently 4 people on this board that I know of that are ka-t.

There should be 2 more in the spring.

I don’t know much about the g20tg turbo, but the T3 would be the one I would go with. It’s what I will be using.

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**Author:** ![jjm\_240sx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b77776/32.png) [@jjm\_240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jjm_240sx)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/11 "2004-10-28T14:01:24Z")

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It depends on the side of the t3 it needs to be a 63ar / AR60 or bigger. I would say Volvo, Subaru, and dsm unless its the 18b + turbo are to small and will choke at high rpm.  
For fuel. If you don’t plan on keeping your engine so long FMU would work. (Some ppl go for years as other go for a week, they are temperamental with only a diafram controlling the pressure) Remember proper tuning is the key to longer life.  
And I would say 2000 if your lucky. Unless you have hook ups and the setup is really really bad.

you got to remember:  
down pipe and exhaust  
oil lines  
waterlines (maybe)  
gaskets  
taping in to your oil pan  
gauges (at least a boost and FP)  
Turbo  
wastegate  
IC  
BOV  
Manifold  
Fuel management  
Fuel pump  
IC piping (you can use abs)

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**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/12 "2004-10-28T14:12:19Z")

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^^ True. Easy to forget the little things. Look at websites selling Stage I turbo kits and get ideas from what they each include. ie. [http://www.import-autoperformance.com/240sxstage1.html](http://www.import-autoperformance.com/240sxstage1.html)  
Then merge these ideas together and formulate your setup! Don’t forget the “CHEAP, RELIABLE, FAST - pick 2” saying. 😛

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**Author:** ![phat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/phat)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t-what-to-do/81860/13 "2004-10-28T15:36:18Z")

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Thanks guys…huge help!

i have a shop down here DMS they know their turbo shit. I’m going to get them to make my manifold and do the piping…

I’m leaning towards the WRX turbo…for price, and the fact that it’s bascially new.

I’ll keep you boyz posted as it progresses, or degresses…lol
