# KA-T **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [January 30, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822 "2008-01-30T18:23:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hurricane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hurricane)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/21 "2008-01-31T09:31:20Z")
Talk to Jon([DarkForceJackal](http://www.son240sx.org/forums/member.php?u=544)) I’m pretty sure he runs a KAT at 5psi for winter driving and loves it. > [@decent welder??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/decent-welder/15687/18): > > I’m prospecting this notion as well (as opposed to SR swap) however, I am unable to store my car during the winter. > > Are there any issues with a KA-T in the winter? I actually intend to turn down the boost in the snow for simple safety reasons. ---
**Author:** ![B\_Hebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@B\_Hebert](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/B_Hebert)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/22 "2008-01-31T12:22:47Z")
jesse ran his ka-t setup in the winter at 7psi, and chris st john ran his ka-t in the winter as well at about 7-10 psi. KA-T arent as bad as alot of people think they are they can just be alot more work as it isnt prepped for turbo like an SR is coming with alot of little things that make it alot easier to install. I will race any SR in 5th gear at 2000 rpm…hahah its fun to watch them struggle. Anywho, im totally down with KA-T and i will build them until i do a v6 or a v8. Hope this helps and i hope that you dont hop on the SR bandwagon, KA-T FTW! P.S. all kidding aside definetally a good route to go, and alot of people on this board to help you out with any questions that you may have about a ka-t setup. ---
**Author:** ![Hurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hurricane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hurricane)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/23 "2008-01-31T12:32:42Z")
> [@That other guy with red elise...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/that-other-guy-with-red-elise/15751/7): > > I will race any SR in 5th gear at 2000 rpm…hahah its fun to watch them struggle. I will take that challenge! 2000-6000… wait do KA’s go that high?.. doesn’t even matter. ---
**Author:** ![B\_Hebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@B\_Hebert](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/B_Hebert)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/24 "2008-01-31T13:12:50Z")
> [@So let's say you own a convertable...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-lets-say-you-own-a-convertable/15737/16): > > I will take that challenge! 2000-6000… wait do KA’s go that high?.. doesn’t even matter. Lets raise the stakes… 2000-7000 and a coffee for wager. ---
**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/25 "2008-01-31T13:29:10Z")
> [@Hurricane"](#): > > Talk to Jon([DarkForceJackal](http://www.son240sx.org/forums/member.php?u=544)) I’m pretty sure he runs a KAT at 5psi for winter driving and loves it. Indeed! I could go on forever but a few points… – Before boosting make sure the engine is healthy and has good compression, way more important than actual mileage – Use good parts and assemble carefully – Test everything thoroughly (AFR’s/wideband, oil lines to turbo not leaking etc) before pushing the car at all – Keep an eye on things and “listen” to your car – Try 6-7 PSI before you think you need 10, you might be surprised at the pull And a million more…basically, it’s all in the execution. Oh, and in the ultimate irony, I just bought an Audi S4 the other day and my KA-T will be up for sale soon! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/26 "2008-01-31T13:37:41Z")
Brap brap! My friend might be getting one of those, is it the 2.7TT or the gay, but more attractive looking V8? ---
**Author:** ![CRXsi2NR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@CRXsi2NR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CRXsi2NR)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/27 "2008-01-31T13:37:58Z")
aem ems is the safest bet with the ka-t , ya’ll need wideband as well or tuned ecu , safc is not enough ya’ll damage the engine pretty quick with no timing done ---
**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/28 "2008-01-31T13:44:16Z")
> [@Review: Talladega Nights - The Ballad of Ricky Bobby](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/review-talladega-nights-the-ballad-of-ricky-bobby/15484/35): > > Brap brap! My friend might be getting one of those, is it the 2.7TT or the gay, but more attractive looking V8? 2001, so the 2.7 Biturbo… :naughty: ---
**Author:** ![FUNGC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fungc/32/5539_2.png) [@FUNGC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FUNGC)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/29 "2008-01-31T13:46:06Z")
yea safc isnt good for KAT because you cannot tune the ignition timing maps shit. all it does is fool the ecu with a different mafs reading. if you do go this route make sure you turn the dizzy timing a few degrees back to be safe. and make sure you get a wideband. as people said, tuning is the key. and at 7psi on a small little SR T25 was more torque than i ever experienced in my life. it was damn fast. if you do a T25 setup its not any harder than a SR swap and you get way more fun if everything is done right! ---
**Author:** ![draggone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@draggone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/draggone)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/30 "2008-01-31T14:33:44Z")
> [@The new york times asks....Wheres Bucky?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-york-times-asks-wheres-bucky/14626/47): > > I actually went with an SR swap vs the KA-T… > however before hand I was quite gung-ho about the KA-T (fan of the low end torque) > however…through my research, throwing on a turbo kit and running it on 10psi is fine and the engine can easily take it. However, tuning is key here. If you have a good tune, you should be okay. You can re-inforce you engine to the tilt and have reinforced internals, but it would still blow with a bad tune. > > If you really want, the only thing I would replace would be the connecting rods…apparently on the ka they’re a bit weak. (not to mention trying to lower the compression a bit) > > anyways, hope this helps and good luck on the project! Wrong!!! the stock rods are good for 450whp or 500whp, the weak piont on the ka is the pistons. Change the piston, put in ARP rod bolts main bolts, get a good tune( JWT, AEM, etc) not SAFC. KA24de half built with stock head, block comes with CP or Wiseco pistons, APR head bolts, rod bolt, ACL bearings, cometic gasket. for $2000.00 with eagle Rods $2300.00 If you put dual valve springs and cams you would be able to rev up to 7500, instead of 6grand. Nitescreen you have seen what a KA24DE-t can do!!! lol. ---
**Author:** ![B\_Hebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@B\_Hebert](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/B_Hebert)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/31 "2008-01-31T14:45:31Z")
> [@How Many 80's Imports are on NYSpeed?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-80s-imports-are-on-nyspeed/14989/59): > > if you do a T25 setup its not any harder than a SR swap and you get way more fun if everything is done right! Depending on your skill level. You have to find and make oil and coolant feed lines. You have to take off and bung the oil pan for the return line. You have to change the injectors to 370’s. Tee off the stock oil pressure sensor for the oil feed line, etc etc. Yes it is easy but its alot more work then tightning a few bolts and connecting a few wires. I guess it depends on your skill level and what you want in your car. I love KA-T and thats the only 4 cylinder i would do. ---
**Author:** ![Hurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hurricane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hurricane)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/32 "2008-01-31T14:53:29Z")
> [@Video: Ferrari P4/5](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/video-ferrari-p4-5/15752/2): > > Lets raise the stakes… > > 2000-7000 > > and a coffee for wager. Exactly how fast is 7000rpm in 5th with stock gearing… I drink tea though… milk and sugar please. ---
**Author:** ![sleepydopey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sleepydopey/32/5526_2.png) [@sleepydopey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sleepydopey)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/33 "2008-01-31T15:36:39Z")
> [@draggone"](#): > > Wrong!!! the stock rods are good for 450whp or 500whp, the weak piont on the ka is the pistons. Change the piston, put in ARP rod bolts main bolts, get a good tune( JWT, AEM, etc) not SAFC. I had no idea they can handle that much…but i guess with a good tune anything is possible. I just thought that the stock KA motor had a pretty high compression rate, okay for an NA, but not so great for turbo applications. In any case, I don’t want this to be another SR Vs. KA thread…that shit has been done too much All I have to say is that if you’re thinking of going KA, just don’t cheap out. Just do it right the first time so that you don’t spend the rest of the time trying to figure out why your engine blew, and then replacing things…and then re-tuning…etc etc etc… But yeah, you’ll definitly have fun with it once it’s boosted ---
**Author:** ![nitescream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nitescream](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitescream)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/34 "2008-01-31T16:16:11Z")
come on Draggone spell my name proper… lol… and Draggone should know cause he’s done it before with no issues!! I think i can i think i can do it!! ---
**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/35 "2008-01-31T18:41:29Z")
> [@decent welder??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/decent-welder/15687/18): > > I’m prospecting this notion as well (as opposed to SR swap) however, I am unable to store my car during the winter. > > Are there any issues with a KA-T in the winter? I actually intend to turn down the boost in the snow for simple safety reasons. Very similar to driving any car in the winter… – Warm up the car properly, warm down if having boosted as well – Only boost when car is totally warmed up (turbo at operating temp) – Shift gently when car is cold – You WILL need winter tires – Weight in the rear DOES help, in virtually every way (adds traction from a stop and in turns too, providing you don’t create a silly amount of momentum) It’s all in how you drive it. All of my winter “issues” over the years that I can recall were “N/A 240sx” related - a tie rod end had play, a ball joint, starter motor began to tire out (all 3 fixed easily), and just door locks/cylinders HATE the cold… 😛 That’s all I can really think of… ---
**Author:** ![nitescream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nitescream](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitescream)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/36 "2008-01-31T20:52:43Z")
what tire specs you KA-T ppl running and how modded is your suspension? what can i get away with ---
**Author:** ![R33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/R33)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/37 "2008-01-31T20:58:19Z")
keep it stock unless u plan on drift/drag/track ---
**Author:** ![draggone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@draggone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/draggone)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/38 "2008-01-31T21:15:51Z")
^^^ why to spin tires like Tony!!! and run a high 12sec in the 1/4 with a car that could run low 11s or high 10s. I am running 275/18/(35 I think) $400 for both. But for know just run the stock tires for now. ---
**Author:** ![draggone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@draggone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/draggone)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/39 "2008-01-31T21:29:26Z")
> [@So let's say you own a convertable...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-lets-say-you-own-a-convertable/15737/16): > > I will take that challenge! 2000-6000… wait do KA’s go that high?.. doesn’t even matter. can I jump in this challenge too? ---
**Author:** ![nitescream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nitescream](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitescream)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka-t/112822/40 "2008-01-31T22:17:20Z")
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