# KA24E 5-speed to KA24DE?

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [August 28, 2007, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka24e-5-speed-to-ka24de/108973 "2007-08-28T10:49:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![white240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/white240/32/5651_2.png) [@white240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/white240)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka24e-5-speed-to-ka24de/108973/1 "2007-08-28T10:49:21Z")

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I just recently purchased a 1990 s13 (KAE), with a 5 speed manual. Can I swap this transmission into my 94 'vert (KADE)? Do I need to change wiring at all?  
Any help is appreciated, thanks  
Mark

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**Author:** ![nautica\_t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@nautica\_t](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nautica_t)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka24e-5-speed-to-ka24de/108973/2 "2007-08-28T11:06:03Z")

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de/e transmissions are the same, but the de has additional sensors. so you may lose something, but hopefully someone will chime in

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**Author:** ![Silvia\_Drift](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silvia_drift/32/5271_2.png) [@Silvia\_Drift](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silvia_Drift)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka24e-5-speed-to-ka24de/108973/3 "2007-08-28T11:18:28Z")

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I was under the impression that the OBD1 kae and kade trannys were exactly the same, including the sensors. I think the additional sensors you’re talking about are from the OBD2 trannys.

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**Author:** ![white240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/white240/32/5651_2.png) [@white240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/white240)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka24e-5-speed-to-ka24de/108973/4 "2007-08-28T11:24:53Z")

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Thats what I’m hoping. I’ve heard a bit about the speed sensors for 4th and 5th gear, but I’m not 100% sure yet.

Thanks for the help so far.

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**Author:** ![snowboard\_240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/snowboard_240sx/32/5519_2.png) [@snowboard\_240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowboard_240sx)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka24e-5-speed-to-ka24de/108973/5 "2007-08-28T11:33:41Z")

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u need the manual transmission lower harness. thats all the wiring u need. The transmissions are the exact same on a kae and kade

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**Author:** ![white240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/white240/32/5651_2.png) [@white240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/white240)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka24e-5-speed-to-ka24de/108973/6 "2007-08-28T11:35:08Z")

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Perfect. Just what I wanted to hear. Maybe it’ll happen sooner than I thought then!

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**Author:** ![Silvia\_Drift](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silvia_drift/32/5271_2.png) [@Silvia\_Drift](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silvia_Drift)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ka24e-5-speed-to-ka24de/108973/7 "2007-08-28T12:17:51Z")

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> [@Callout: 05OrangeSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-05orangess/13711/45):
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> Perfect. Just what I wanted to hear. Maybe it’ll happen sooner than I thought then!

There is also a little extra wiring that needs to be done to get the power top to work and also to get the cruise to work.

Check out this write up on how to get the top to work:

> **[How To: 5 Speed Swap in Convertibles (and other S13s) - Nissan Forum | Nissan...](https://forums.nicoclub.com/how-to-5-speed-swap-in-convertibles-and-other-s13s-t77784.html)**

I still haven’t got my top AND cruise control to work yet so I don’t have any info on that :S.
