# Knewman's Knuckle

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598
**Category:** Builds
**Created:** [July 1, 2015, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598 "2015-07-01T09:14:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/81 "2016-03-14T06:45:51Z")

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impressive as usual. I’ve still yet to play with the threading gearbox on my lathe…I gotta try it sometime and see how it comes out.

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/82 "2016-03-14T07:33:04Z")

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> [@focusinprogress](#):
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> impressive as usual. I’ve still yet to play with the threading gearbox on my lathe…I gotta try it sometime and see how it comes out.

Let me know when you’re going to try, because there are a lot of little things that you need to do and I’ll come give you a hand. Also, you have to take super small cuts, regardless of thread size (like .003 on the compound). That 3/4-16 thread took like 20 passes.

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### Author: ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/83 "2016-03-14T07:35:34Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> Let me know when you’re going to try, because there are a lot of little things that you need to do and I’ll come give you a hand. Also, you have to take super small cuts, regardless of thread size (like .003 on the compound). That 3/4-16 thread took like 20 passes.

I’d appreciate the hell out of that. will def let you know.

Kamilitaryman’s dad was with me when I bought this thing and he demo’d the threading gearbox before I bought it, but just did a rough pass or two to make sure it works and didn’t fully set it up. I have a project in mind where I’d want to cut ACME thread on a tube and then make a collar to thread on that…I have the little gauge for cutting a HSS but to cut the thread and have watched a few videos on doing it but haven’t played with it yet.

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/84 "2016-03-14T07:59:33Z")

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> [@focusinprogress](#):
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> I’d appreciate the hell out of that. will def let you know.
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> Kamilitaryman’s dad was with me when I bought this thing and he demo’d the threading gearbox before I bought it, but just did a rough pass or two to make sure it works and didn’t fully set it up. I have a project in mind where I’d want to cut ACME thread on a tube and then make a collar to thread on that…I have the little gauge for cutting a HSS but to cut the thread and have watched a few videos on doing it but haven’t played with it yet.

I know you prefer to save money on tooling but I was trying and failing with HSS. Got a used holder for a TMNA insert and never looked back.

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### Author: ![manhagen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/manhagen/32/7336_2.png) [@manhagen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/manhagen)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/85 "2016-03-14T08:31:38Z")

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I’m sure you’re familiar with similar products, but I used Shine Seal on our polished or brushed wheels and other polished bits and it really holds up. Wheels were always just soap, water, dry and no re-polishing.

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/86 "2016-03-14T08:36:50Z")

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> [@manhagen](#):
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> I’m sure you’re familiar with similar products, but I used Shine Seal on our polished or brushed wheels and other polished bits and it really holds up. Wheels were always just soap, water, dry and no re-polishing.

Thanks. I have a box of shine seal in my locker. Going to put it on the hubs before I lace them. I decided against using the glisten PC.

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### Author: ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/87 "2016-03-14T09:32:08Z")

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Really good work!

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### Author: ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/88 "2016-03-14T12:43:09Z")

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World class. Still say you should just open a shop and do this for a living. Easily charge 150$ an hour labor, more for R&D.

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### Author: ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/89 "2016-03-14T12:59:55Z")

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> [@ubengineering](#):
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> World class. Still say you should just open a shop and do this for a living. Easily charge 150$ an hour labor, more for R&D.

When your hobby becomes a job it’s no longer fun.

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/90 "2016-03-14T13:06:54Z")

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> [@ubengineering](#):
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> World class. Still say you should just open a shop and do this for a living. Easily charge 150$ an hour labor, more for R&D.

> [@llink78](#):
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> When your hobby becomes a job it’s no longer fun.

Thanks for the compliment. Maybe some day, but at this point it’s not sustainable. Even at 50/hr, most people probably couldn’t afford me to do truly custom builds.

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### Author: ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/91 "2016-03-14T13:58:15Z")

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Goddamn. Haven’t checked in in a while…can’t wait to see it all come together.

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### Author: ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/92 "2016-03-14T17:37:09Z")

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A Dremel could get into those tiny little corners to polish them.

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### Author: ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/93 "2016-03-14T18:24:59Z")

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It also helps when you have access to all this nice equipment. Not taking anything away from the build, it’s very nice and obviously takes a lot of skill.

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### Author: ![Gus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gus/32/5112_2.png) [@Gus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gus)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/94 "2016-03-14T21:15:35Z")

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Saw a few post on the IG, but reading this takes me through all the punishment polishing has been giving you. Kudos to all your hard work.

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/95 "2016-03-14T21:39:29Z")

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> [@joelster](#):
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> A Dremel could get into those tiny little corners to polish them.

You might think that but you’re wrong. Haha. I have spent about 3500 bucks on sanding equipment including so many dremel bits but there is nothing that will last long enough to be effective in stainless. I worked one square for an entire day with dremel bits and it wasn’t enough. Keep in mind an extra fine grinding stone is only about 80 grit. Even if you get it down to that consistently, it’s still a long long way from a polished finish.

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> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> It also helps when you have access to all this nice equipment. Not taking anything away from the build, it’s very nice and obviously takes a lot of skill.

What nice equipment though? A 6000 dollar Bridgeport and 3000 dollar lathe? I don’t really use anything other than normal shop tools, you could get them easily. Most of the tools that I use have been purchased by me anyway, save for the two I just mentioned.

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> [@Gus](#):
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> Saw a few post on the IG, but reading this takes me through all the punishment polishing has been giving you. Kudos to all your hard work.

Thanks. It’s so much work. I can’t even convey it in a post.  
I already have over 100 hours in polishing parts alone. It is a lot of work for sure. The bike is barely a pile of parts and it’s got 200+ hours in it.

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### Author: ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/96 "2016-03-15T06:14:56Z")

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I don’t think people realize what a complete custom build costs. If you read up on the big shops like Dues and similar, they LOSE money on building bikes…they make the money on merchandising and branding. That’s why there’s more companies specializing in a few custom parts, people are more willing to spend a couple grand on fancy shit that makes a build easier to do at home.

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### Author: ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2016, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/97 "2016-03-15T06:15:45Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> Thanks for the compliment. Maybe some day, but at this point it’s not sustainable. Even at 50/hr, most people probably couldn’t afford me to do truly custom builds.

You’d probably have to move to a baller city for the right clientele.

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2016, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/98 "2016-03-15T07:49:49Z")

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> [@focusinprogress](#):
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> I don’t think people realize what a complete custom build costs. If you read up on the big shops like Dues and similar, they LOSE money on building bikes…they make the money on merchandising and branding. That’s why there’s more companies specializing in a few custom parts, people are more willing to spend a couple grand on fancy shit that makes a build easier to do at home.

Nobody does. Ever. Even people who “work on cars and bikes” have no idea what it takes to actually build stuff to this level. I’m not trying to be elitist, it’s just beyond what most people think by MILES.

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### Author: ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2016, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/99 "2016-03-15T07:51:05Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> Nobody does. Ever. Even people who “work on cars and bikes” have no idea what it takes to actually build stuff to this level. I’m not trying to be elitist, it’s just beyond what most people think by MILES.

agreed. I’m playing with legos compared to the level you’re building at.

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### Author: ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2016, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knewmans-knuckle/272598/100 "2016-03-15T07:53:35Z")

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> [@ubengineering](#):
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> You’d probably have to move to a baller city for the right clientele.

The thing is, their money would go so much further just buying something new or prebuilt. When this bike is done I probably will have invested over 2000 man hours and enough cash to buy a Panigale R and 10-15K in accessories on top of that. But there is something that, to me, is worth more than the end product, and that’s the pride in the process and learning.

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