# Knockoffs **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 16, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407 "2009-01-16T02:21:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![car\_ramrod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/car_ramrod/32/6441_2.png) [@car\_ramrod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/car_ramrod)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/21 "2009-01-16T09:41:01Z")
when people actually drive their cars too the point of breaking a wheel, then they can complain about knockoffs ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/22 "2009-01-16T09:43:29Z")
I’m not saying Rotas are even close to as structurally sound as many of their originals, however saying that the ‘Real’ wheels won’t break like a Rota is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/23 "2009-01-16T09:43:39Z")
> [@I finally went to a drag strip!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-finally-went-to-a-drag-strip/12629/18): > > when people actually drive their cars too the point of breaking a wheel, then they can complain about knockoffs This. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/24 "2009-01-16T09:45:56Z")
> [@Sweet cop car, no hemi here just turblo!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sweet-cop-car-no-hemi-here-just-turblo/12568/26): > > I’m not saying Rotas are even close to as structurally sound as many of their originals, however saying that the ‘Real’ wheels won’t break like a Rota is ridiculous. ever seen a volk/work/enkei shatter? I haven’t. “real” wheels will be able to withstand a TON more abuse than some shitty knockoff. You even admit it in your above post, but somehow still say my statement is ridiculous. You make zero sense. edit: I’m in no way saying “real” wheels are indestructible ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/25 "2009-01-16T10:31:48Z")
That seemed to be what you were saying to me, and yes I have seen OEM Enkei Lotus wheels, OEM Enkei evo wheels, OEM Forged BBS STi wheels, BBS RK’s, BBS RCs, crack or shatter from heavy impact, in fact there was a Viper Track day a few years ago where there were NINE indpenedant HRE failures throughout the day, even a manufacture defect as huge as the wheel itself being too small, and the wheel actually rotating inside of the tire! I’ve had Rotas, had issues with them, sold them. Good riddens, but I don’t disagree with what they’re doing, who would? It brings nice wheels to people who can’t afford to drop $600+ per wheel. ---
**Author:** ![w.tungsten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7bcc69/32.png) [@w.tungsten](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/w.tungsten)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/26 "2009-01-16T10:35:32Z")
Yup. WRC. And drift car wheels do undergo a lot of stress, they go off track a lot. purposefully “dirt drops” or just accidentally going off course. The following are non-rotas used in racing ![http://www.webbracing.com/Broken%20Wheel%20Web.jpg](http://www.webbracing.com/Broken%20Wheel%20Web.jpg) ![http://www.writerguy.com/primitive/images/img-racenews/brokewheel.jpg](http://www.writerguy.com/primitive/images/img-racenews/brokewheel.jpg) ![http://www.rallytales.net/WildWest05/Fragged2.jpg](http://www.rallytales.net/WildWest05/Fragged2.jpg) and… ![http://www.elrobinson.ws/images/tire3.jpg](http://www.elrobinson.ws/images/tire3.jpg) ![http://www.elrobinson.ws/images/tire4.jpg](http://www.elrobinson.ws/images/tire4.jpg) ![http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/experience/diary/jan07/brokenwheel.jpg](http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/experience/diary/jan07/brokenwheel.jpg) OEM OMGWTFBBQ I just ruined everyone’s day. \*edit dirt drop for awesome! ![http://driftjapan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dirt-drop-drift-technique.jpg](http://driftjapan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dirt-drop-drift-technique.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![w.tungsten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7bcc69/32.png) [@w.tungsten](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/w.tungsten)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/27 "2009-01-16T10:36:32Z")
I do however disagree with what rota is doing. If they only did designs that are out of production then I wouldn’t care. But I mean… look at RS watanabe, Compomotives, Panasports, Konig rewinds… all the same design. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/28 "2009-01-16T10:39:33Z")
> [@So who else is as lucky as me....?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-who-else-is-as-lucky-as-me/12631/26): > > Yup. WRC. And drift car wheels do undergo a lot of stress, they go off track a lot. purposefully “dirt drops” or just accidentally going off course. > > The following are non-rotas used in racing > > blah > blah > blah > > OMGWTFBBQ I just ruined everyone’s day. hitting a massive pothole at 60mph would probably be more destructive than sliding off the pavement a little, yeah… I think so. Tracks usually have a smooth transition from pavement to dirt to prevent accidents and damage. yeah, so imagine if they used rotas instead? Day not ruined, but thanks for caring 😃 ---
**Author:** ![w.tungsten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7bcc69/32.png) [@w.tungsten](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/w.tungsten)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/29 "2009-01-16T10:47:40Z")
> [@Car Tune Question \[Where and How much?\]](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-tune-question-where-and-how-much/12619/17): > > hitting a massive pothole at 60mph would probably be more destructive than sliding off the pavement a little, yeah… I think so. Tracks usually have a smooth transition from pavement to dirt to prevent accidents and damage. > > yeah, so imagine if they used rotas instead? Day not ruined, but thanks for caring 😃 True, potholes would put more stress on the wheel. But I’ve hit plenty with mine. So far no problems. In the end, I’ll be happy with my rotas, you’ll be happy with your volks. I don’t see a problem. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/30 "2009-01-16T10:58:22Z")
> [@FS: 1990 cavalier Z24 Coupe DD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1990-cavalier-z24-coupe-dd/12436/7): > > True, potholes would put more stress on the wheel. But I’ve hit plenty with mine. So far no problems. > > In the end, I’ll be happy with my rotas, you’ll be happy with your volks. I don’t see a problem. paaalease sir, I dont have dough for volks, I have some cheapos myself, but I will not come out and say they are AWESOME! So far so good, but I do want to replace them. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/31 "2009-01-16T11:03:48Z")
drift wit these ![http://www.wheeldb.com/images/DUB-Pimpstar-Wheels.jpg](http://www.wheeldb.com/images/DUB-Pimpstar-Wheels.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/32 "2009-01-16T13:51:16Z")
Wasnt a thread about rims, I just wanna see what people have seen over the years as far as a Huge Name Brand Like Volk/Sparco/AEM/etc and have something as a knockoff to it. thats VERY similar in what the real product is. ---
**Author:** ![Jersey\_Fresh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jersey_fresh/32/6418_2.png) [@Jersey\_Fresh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jersey_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/33 "2009-01-16T13:57:04Z")
> [@layzie vs firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/79): > > Wasnt a thread about rims, I just wanna see what people have seen over the years as far as a Huge Name Brand Like Volk/Sparco/AEM/etc and have something as a knockoff to it. thats VERY similar in what the real product is. 98% of the Bride racing seats on ebay are fakes… Bride even put something up on their site a while ago about it… ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/34 "2009-01-16T14:11:52Z")
Those “Vork TE37s” aren’t even close ---
**Author:** ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/35 "2009-01-16T16:29:14Z")
> [@layzie vs firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/79): > > Wasnt a thread about rims, I just wanna see what people have seen over the years as far as a Huge Name Brand Like Volk/Sparco/AEM/etc and have something as a knockoff to it. thats VERY similar in what the real product is. then why did u post an absolutly horrible example that is not even close to the original? ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/36 "2009-01-16T16:47:25Z")
> [@15 year old girl - where to get summer job?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/15-year-old-girl-where-to-get-summer-job/12647/20): > > then why did u post an absolutly horrible example that is not even close to the original? LOL I know that’s probably the worst knock-off…the multiple lug holes give it away right off the bat…this is more of a knock-off to a TE37 ![http://www.datsunracing.com/albums/rotas/PICT0033.sized.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/9/4/946f0ac5cb963bd4e0c5456795466428cd4da07e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/37 "2009-01-16T16:52:02Z")
The second one is pretty close ---
**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/38 "2009-01-16T16:55:03Z")
> [@15 year old girl - where to get summer job?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/15-year-old-girl-where-to-get-summer-job/12647/20): > > then why did u post an absolutly horrible example that is not even close to the original? ravs —\> rays vork —\> volk And im sorry, your right worst example ever :rolleyes:. ---
**Author:** ![Silent](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silent/32/6292_2.png) [@Silent](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silent)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/39 "2009-01-16T17:13:18Z")
i like my rota’s maybe in a year or 2 ill get reall rims … ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407/40 "2009-01-16T17:14:01Z")
The worst knockoff I have seen has to be the Rota Beat _![http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/racinglab_2036_351083415](http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/racinglab_2036_351083415)_ Copies of the Mugen CF-48 ![http://www.3geez.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4248&d=1114623693](http://www.3geez.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4248&d=1114623693) UGLY copies of UGLY wheels [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knockoffs/241407.md?page=3)