# Knowledgable Gym Bruhs only plz **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 20, 2014, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128 "2014-11-20T08:28:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/1 "2014-11-20T08:28:17Z")
I am 100% on the wrong forum to think i should look for any advice here - but I’m open to listening to everyone always I am 18.5 weeks away from my first physique show. I have 1 week left of CoryGregory’s 6week Powertrainer. the plan was to get as big/strong as possible before ~12weeks out from the show. It’s working, my bench/squat/deadlift are all going up (275/335/455) and I feel strong, I’m going UP in body weight (207lb @10-11% bf) and looking leaner. My concern is, I don’t think i should really do a crazy cut until about 12weeks out - or am i wrong and thats not enough time? If it is, what should I do until those 12 weeks? lift big/eat big & just worry about making gains until then? Ideally i should have started that 6 week joint NOW, and then when it was over been at the 12 week mark but my timings a bit off. Thoughts? KC ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/2 "2014-11-20T08:36:34Z")
Test and Tren? lol might as well do what the rest of the guys in the shows are ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/3 "2014-11-20T08:40:08Z")
I think my girlfriend cut for figure for 15 weeks. But its apples to oranges with her being a girl. you didn’t hire a trainer? you taking pro hormones? - - - Updated - - - You doing if it fits you macros cut or a real cut? ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/4 "2014-11-20T08:50:38Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Test and Tren? lol might as well do what the rest of the guys in the shows are lol. I’m doing a natural show for that reason. > [@Wahoo](#): > > I think my girlfriend cut for figure for 15 weeks. But its apples to oranges with her being a girl. > > you didn’t hire a trainer? > > you taking pro hormones? > > - > - > - Updated - - - > > You doing if it fits you macros cut or a real cut? Did not hire a trainer yet - you wouldn’t really do it until the cutting stage anyway to help with diet and to help avoid muscle loss. I don’t think I’m going to at all though to be honest for a number of reasons. iifym is not for me - I’ve cut before and have a pretty good handle on the better ways to do it - but like anything, I always listen to everyone and learn as much as poss. never really looked into pro hormones just a solid supplement regimen ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Danger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt_danger/32/4981_2.png) [@Matt\_Danger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Matt_Danger)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/5 "2014-11-20T08:53:26Z")
You can do this without drugs and at this point drugs would just complicate matters. You are going to need to be very strict with your dieting, meal planning and timing. Get a coach / mentor that can work with you week by week and take your measurements. I can’t recommend anyone in Buffalo, but maybe someone on here can. ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/6 "2014-11-20T08:59:38Z")
^^^just to clarify, my main Q is - I am ok with cutting, I’ve lost 40lbs in a short amount of time before, and I’ll only need to lose about 15 by the time the 12week mark rolls around… but whats the best next step for these upcoming 6-7 weeks prior? ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/7 "2014-11-20T09:06:09Z")
> [@King](#): > > I’ve lost 40lbs in a short amount of time before, and I’ll only need to lose about 15 by the time the 12week mark rolls around What was your starting weight? Can you explain what your method was/is? Im not over weight but I would like to get “cut”. More like shed fat gain muscle ---
**Author:** ![cretinx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cretinx/32/6121_2.png) [@cretinx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cretinx)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/8 "2014-11-20T09:29:41Z")
I don’t know a fucking thing about bodybuilding/cutting - but everyone I know who does that diets for AT LEAST 16 weeks pre-show. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/9 "2014-11-20T09:30:34Z")
And just when I thought you could not get any more sexy… ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/10 "2014-11-20T11:53:28Z")
> [@rugsr](#): > > What was your starting weight? Can you explain what your method was/is? Im not over weight but I would like to get “cut”. More like shed fat gain muscle at that time i was 225 and got down to 187. my method was eat a diet meant for cutting, but lift like a bodybuilder. high fat/high protein. can PM me if you want any specific advice for your own goals - - - Updated - - - > [@cretinx](#): > > I don’t know a fucking thing about bodybuilding/cutting - but everyone I know who does that diets for AT LEAST 16 weeks pre-show. some do 16, some do 6. depends where you’re at when you start and how well you know what you’re doing i guess. - - - Updated - - - > [@2TurboZ](#): > > And just when I thought you could not get any more sexy… ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ what can i say ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/11 "2014-11-20T12:17:55Z")
Clen… ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/12 "2014-11-20T12:24:14Z")
> [@snowracer101](#): > > Clen… its on the list of banned substances from the comp ---
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/13 "2014-11-20T14:02:55Z")
He’s doing physique, not BB’ing. Massive difference in the bodyfat% when they step on stage. You need to hire a trainer RIGHT NOW. Don’t do it half-assed and on your own. I would suggest Justin Draper, he’s a lifetime natural guy and he knows his shit. [https://www.facebook.com/justin.draper.98?fref=ts](https://www.facebook.com/justin.draper.98?fref=ts) He just opened his own gym on Transit right by the Eastern Hills Mall. ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/14 "2014-11-20T14:50:27Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFT7rVhz-0k) > [@snowracer101](#): > > Clen… [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFT7rVhz-0k) - - - Updated - - - Me and my girlfriend hired Primerano. My girlfriend won first place and overall at natural muscle show a month ago. i stopped working out completely though, and lost all my gains from earlier this year lol. ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/15 "2014-11-20T21:26:54Z")
> [@joelster](#): > > He’s doing physique, not BB’ing. Massive difference in the bodyfat% when they step on stage. > > You need to hire a trainer RIGHT NOW. Don’t do it half-assed and on your own. I would suggest Justin Draper, he’s a lifetime natural guy and he knows his shit. > > [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/justin.draper.98?fref=ts) > > He just opened his own gym on Transit right by the Eastern Hills Mall. Isn’t that the jada blitz guy? I’ve heard good things but meh sounds like a weird cult. I want to do this for me not go there to the event wearing a jada blitz tee with 49 other dudes wearing jada blitz tees ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/16 "2014-11-20T21:53:23Z")
Will you please post pics of you all oily and orange and wearing the glitzy hammock ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/17 "2014-11-21T03:48:45Z")
[https://www.facebook.com/pages/Catalano-Personal-Training/284677658230821?sk=info&tab=overview](https://www.facebook.com/pages/Catalano-Personal-Training/284677658230821?sk=info&tab=overview) Give that guy a try,he actively competes and knows what he’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/18 "2014-11-21T04:58:52Z")
Can you guys recommend what an optimal testosterone level is for a 30 year old guy? About 200 pounds. I am taking androgel legally, right now I am around 1000 at my last bloodwork. I am also working out and running marathons. ---
**Author:** ![cretinx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cretinx/32/6121_2.png) [@cretinx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cretinx)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/19 "2014-11-21T06:22:30Z")
> [@snowracer101](#): > > Clen… This is what the slamholes in Hollywood take. There are better substances out. ---
**Author:** ![Quatts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/2bfe46/32.png) [@Quatts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quatts)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128/20 "2014-11-21T06:32:28Z")
Which show are you doing? Some of the more well known trainers in buffalo I’d say are Primerano, Catalano, Justin Draper (Jada Blitz), Mike Delzoppo. Pretty sure they all train natty athletes and those who are cycling [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knowledgable-gym-bruhs-only-plz/271128.md?page=2)