# Larger front sway increases understeer?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [January 17, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439 "2009-01-17T13:38:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/81 "2009-01-18T12:18:38Z")

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You guys all suck and keep quiet!

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/82 "2009-01-18T12:22:39Z")

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> [@Buying an FMIC online](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buying-an-fmic-online/12696/22):
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> You guys all suck and keep quiet!

easy there, mr. “i’ve been doing turbos since day one”

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/83 "2009-01-18T12:30:26Z")

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Some hardcore gangbangers in this thread!

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/84 "2009-01-18T12:30:36Z")

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> [@Subaru "my fast" NOT A REPOST](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-my-fast-not-a-repost/12718/3):
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> easy there, mr. “i’ve been doing turbos since day one”

maybe you shoodn’t get all hyped up for nuttin.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/85 "2009-01-18T12:32:38Z")

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> [@I would like to buy this fish tank stand...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-like-to-buy-this-fish-tank-stand/12715/2):
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> Some hardcore gangbangers in this thread!

you know it. you still down for a little T&C action next sunday?

> [@XP Problem - Won't Startup](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/xp-problem-wont-startup/12716/8):
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> maybe you shoodn’t get all hyped up for nuttin.

youre just jealous that me and andrew clearly know more about JDM parts than you do.

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/86 "2009-01-18T12:55:44Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/12711/3):
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> :bow CLASSIC cazwrx move. we’re hanging out at my house putting dkid’s sway in, he says to bobby “you should get a front sway to decrease your understeer even more”, i sayz, “uhhh, no, cazwrx” and proceed to explain how it would increase understeer, Charlie Murphy calls me “ig’nant” and does a real-life facepalm, shaking of the head, and muttering incoherent insults to express how “wrong” i am, comes home to make a fread on shift518 to assert his e-dominance over kramerbuttz, only to realize he is very much incorrect and i was right, then tries to change the subject with a post such as…
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> gotta love it :up
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> BTW the compass will pull a better 60ft than the wrx.
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> /thread

Well I’m not completely wrong, and you aren’t completely right. What I said is correct under certain circumstances. As many people in this thread have stated, there are a huge amount of variables that would determine a cars handling. The question I posed can not be answered universally. It all varies from car to car.

Bobby’s Si would benefit from a larger front sway bar to compliment the larger rear sway bar he put in. :up

You were not right, neither was I. :retardclap

Have fun driving the compass around corners :rofl

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/87 "2009-01-18T12:57:10Z")

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> [@Subaru "my fast" NOT A REPOST](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-my-fast-not-a-repost/12718/3):
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> easy there, mr. “i’ve been doing turbos since day one”

:rofl

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**Author:** ![dkid15](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dkid15/32/6398_2.png) [@dkid15](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dkid15)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/88 "2009-01-18T13:30:11Z")

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> [@Albino's Alero \> 2005 Mustang GT...with a tiwst!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/albinos-alero-2005-mustang-gt-with-a-tiwst/12713/7):
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> Bobby’s Si would benefit from a larger front sway bar to compliment the larger rear sway bar he put in. :up

NO, its not like i put a 50mm rear sway bar on my car. Its a 21 mm off of an 06 type-s.

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/89 "2009-01-18T13:34:57Z")

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> [@Yo Wetworks](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yo-wetworks/11044/42):
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> NO, its not like i put a 50mm rear sway bar on my car. Its a 21 mm off of an 06 type-s.

and you have a 14mm on the front so get a 21mm for the front

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/90 "2009-01-18T13:35:08Z")

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> [@Albino's Alero \> 2005 Mustang GT...with a tiwst!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/albinos-alero-2005-mustang-gt-with-a-tiwst/12713/7):
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> Have fun driving the compass around corners :rofl

I will, as I will be saving my own money for a car I’ll pay for upfront with cash.

You have fun cutting 60ft’s that can’t beat my FWD Altima’s in a car that daddykins bought you :mamoru:

> [@6/4 Como Cruise](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/6-4-como-cruise/12709/7):
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> and you have a 14mm on the front so get a 21mm for the front

so now you’re suggesting he downsizes?? he has 24.5 front stock :retardclap

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/91 "2009-01-18T13:38:45Z")

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> [@5/31 S&R cruise night](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-31-s-r-cruise-night/12700/16):
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> I will, as I will be saving my own money for a car I’ll pay for upfront with cash.
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> You have fun cutting 60ft’s that can’t beat my FWD Altima’s in a car that daddykins bought you :mamoru:

howp, call out.

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/92 "2009-01-18T13:41:52Z")

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> [@5/31 S&R cruise night](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-31-s-r-cruise-night/12700/16):
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> I will, as I will be saving my own money for a car I’ll pay for upfront with cash.
> 
> You have fun cutting 60ft’s that can’t beat my FWD Altima’s in a car that daddykins bought you :mamoru:

Another ignorant statement. Out of the 11,500 I owed for the car, I now owe 4 grand. I’m sorry if I don’t have grand parents who give me thousands of dollars to put in a CD. 😢

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/93 "2009-01-18T13:48:25Z")

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> [@ponderous...fucking PONDEROUS!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ponderous-fucking-ponderous/12677/14):
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> Another ignorant statement. Out of the 11,500 I owed for the car, I now owe 4 grand. I’m sorry if I don’t have grand parents who give me thousands of dollars to put in a CD. 😢

What the fuckkkkk??? My grandparents split new tires with me when I bought the car, if you must know. The only CD that has ever been involved in my car was the $5800 one I made when I was 15 :retardclap:retardclap

Where do you come up with these statistics? lmao.

And by the way, bobby’s stock front sway is 24.5mm, so no you’re suggesting he downsizes to decrease understeer, when you just said the opposite would be true? Just stick to running 15’s in a car capable of running 13’s, that’s all you seem to be good at 😃

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/94 "2009-01-18T14:06:19Z")

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> [@Old School Game....(this is for you howie)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/old-school-game-this-is-for-you-howie/12721/3):
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> What the fuckkkkk??? My grandparents split new tires with me when I bought the car, if you must know. The only CD that has ever been involved in my car was the $5800 one I made when I was 15 :retardclap:retardclap
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> Where do you come up with these statistics? lmao.
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> And by the way, bobby’s stock front sway is 24.5mm, so no you’re suggesting he downsizes to decrease understeer, when you just said the opposite would be true? Just stick to running 15’s in a car capable of running 13’s, that’s all you seem to be good at 😃

I didn’t have $5800 when I got the wrx, I had my Audi :rofl

Bobby told me he had a 14mm front and rear sway bar, If he really has a 24.5mm (real random number) then he should keep it as is.

Ignorance yet again. If you don’t know about wrx transmissions by now, I have no idea what to do with you :retardclap

All you seem to be good at is making excuses about why you can’t track or auto x your Altima this summer.

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/95 "2009-01-18T14:07:15Z")

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who cares, you both suck and thats that.

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/96 "2009-01-18T14:09:32Z")

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> [@ponderous...fucking PONDEROUS!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ponderous-fucking-ponderous/12677/16):
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> who cares, you both suck and thats that.

:retardclap

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/97 "2009-01-18T14:09:40Z")

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> [@ponderous...fucking PONDEROUS!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ponderous-fucking-ponderous/12677/16):
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> who cares, you both suck and thats that.

this

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/98 "2009-01-18T14:09:50Z")

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crazywrx a bit more so.

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/99 "2009-01-18T14:10:08Z")

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> [@ponderous...fucking PONDEROUS!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ponderous-fucking-ponderous/12677/16):
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> who cares, you both suck and thats that.

:up

Although I like the shots you guys take at each other… carry on

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/100 "2009-01-18T14:10:20Z")

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> [@DSM Problems](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsm-problems/12680/10):
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> crazywrx a bit more so.

:up

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