# Larger front sway increases understeer?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [January 17, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439 "2009-01-17T13:38:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/101 "2009-01-18T14:12:49Z")

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> [@Who wants Stanley Cup Final Tickets???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-wants-stanley-cup-final-tickets/12717/8):
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> I didn’t have $5800 when I got the wrx, I had my Audi :rofl
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> Bobby told me he had a 14mm front and rear sway bar, If he really has a 24.5mm (real random number) then he should keep it as is.
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> Ignorance yet again. If you don’t know about wrx transmissions by now, I have no idea what to do with you :retardclap
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> All you seem to be good at is making excuses about why you can’t track or auto x your Altima this summer.

If I had a penny for every time you said the word ignorance/ignorant…

My excuse is I can’t afford to track it, if that’s an excuse at all? 😕

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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/102 "2009-01-18T14:13:18Z")

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> [@5/31 S&R cruise night](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-31-s-r-cruise-night/12700/18):
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> :up
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> Although I like the shots you guys take at each other… carry on

yeahhh, there quite lame but entertaninging to say the least:happy:

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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/103 "2009-01-18T14:47:39Z")

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> [@ponderous...fucking PONDEROUS!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ponderous-fucking-ponderous/12677/16):
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> who cares, you both suck and thats that.

🆙up

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/104 "2009-01-18T15:31:07Z")

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There’s even more fail on this page then on the last one.

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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/105 "2009-01-18T15:32:30Z")

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good thing i didn’t contribute

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/106 "2009-01-18T15:42:41Z")

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> [@Albino's Alero \> 2005 Mustang GT...with a tiwst!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/albinos-alero-2005-mustang-gt-with-a-tiwst/12713/7):
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> Well I’m not completely wrong, and you aren’t completely right. What I said is correct under certain circumstances. As many people in this thread have stated, there are a huge amount of variables that would determine a cars handling. The question I posed can not be answered universally. It all varies from car to car.
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> Bobby’s Si would benefit from a larger front sway bar to compliment the larger rear sway bar he put in. :up
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> You were not right, neither was I. :retardclap
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> Have fun driving the compass around corners :rofl

Repeat this: “I was wrong. I cant talk my way out of it. I dont understand how sway bars work.”

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeremiah/32/6318_2.png) [@Jeremiah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeremiah)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/107 "2009-01-18T21:16:09Z")

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> [@JClark"](#):
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> Repeat this: “I was wrong. I cant talk my way out of it. I dont understand how sway bars work.”

Do what this guy says and /thread.

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**Author:** ![dkid15](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dkid15/32/6398_2.png) [@dkid15](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dkid15)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/108 "2009-01-18T21:25:00Z")

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> [@Who wants Stanley Cup Final Tickets???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-wants-stanley-cup-final-tickets/12717/8):
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> I didn’t have $5800 when I got the wrx, I had my Audi :rofl
> 
> Bobby told me he had a 14mm front and rear sway bar, If he really has a 24.5mm (real random number) then he should keep it as is.
> 
> Ignorance yet again. If you don’t know about wrx transmissions by now, I have no idea what to do with you :retardclap
> 
> All you seem to be good at is making excuses about why you can’t track or auto x your Altima this summer.

I never said any of this, why am i always brought up when i dont care. Sway bar in front is 25.4 mm rear was 14mm now 21mm.

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/109 "2009-01-19T09:16:27Z")

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> [@Albino's Alero \> 2005 Mustang GT...with a tiwst!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/albinos-alero-2005-mustang-gt-with-a-tiwst/12713/7):
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> Bobby’s Si would benefit from a larger front sway bar to compliment the larger rear sway bar he put in. :up
> 
> You were not right, neither was I. :retardclap

NO! Why would he do this? There are several variables to consider before dumping $$$$. Just because they make parts does not mean you _NEED_ parts. What he needs to do is drive the car first and see how it reacts then make adjustments accordingly.

Edit: and anyways, you were not “partially right”. You were referring to a Honda platform when you made these allegations. Adding a front sway bar WILL theoretically increase understeer. If the car dramatically oversteers a front swaybar will help balance it out more, but NOT by adding MORE oversteer like you claimed.

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/110 "2009-01-19T10:21:21Z")

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While we’re talking in real general blanket terms, be aware of “balancing” out your suspension by adjusting one end of the car. Are you adding grip to the end that needs it, or taking away grip from the end that already has it so that it feels “balanced”?

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/larger-front-sway-increases-understeer/241439/111 "2009-01-19T13:45:08Z")

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You girls need to stop being little bitches. Caz was more wrong than he was right… No technicalities there. And even on Subaru’s, a larger front anti-roll will USUALLY increase understeer. Quit yer bitchin and go to a track to really tell if either mod made a difference.

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