# layzie vs firehawk853 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 28, 2006, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615 "2006-05-28T11:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/81 "2006-05-29T18:52:14Z")
> [@jeeves744](#): > > i hate to break it to you but the video wasnt edited. I watched the video on the camera in the mighty parking lot and its the exact same as the video everyone else is watching. Badazz is using window’s movie maker here, this isnt some pimp video editing software where he is fucking around with stuff. well, i was there, and if that is all the video he has, then he missed the good races. Those were all short pulls and mis-starts. I was in a chase car, and what went down is really nothing like what is shown on the video… Next time, each car should have a camera in the passenger seat. > [@turbo ls1 ss](#): > > ughh…im 100% positive chuck made it CLEAR he was done at ~120 BEFORE the race. THAT IS ALL HE IS GEARED FOR. i was there for all the pre-race talk, and never heard anything like this mentioned… If making it clear involved not telling layzie, then sure, he made it very clear. ---
**Author:** ![98FREAKGTP](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/98freakgtp/32/7213_2.png) [@98FREAKGTP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98FREAKGTP)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/82 "2006-05-29T20:03:53Z")
So. . . . . why can’t they just go again? Its not like its an official kill on the greater then thread. > [@Onyx Z32](#): > > **KEY** > > **[Green Brackets]** = Cars of the same speed, or too close to call. > **Yellow ?/?** = Put between members that should race next; unknown standing in the chain. > [@Onyx Z32](#): > > **[Green Brackets]** = Cars of the same speed, or too close to call. ---
**Author:** ![layzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layzie/32/7599_2.png) [@layzie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/layzie)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/83 "2006-05-29T20:33:41Z")
it always ends up into a arguement if the cars are this close. and i dont really care anymore. i had fun racing and thats all i cared about. even when i sheered all the teeth off my 4th i didnt care cuz it was fun time ---
**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/84 "2006-05-29T20:33:44Z")
Uhg. “the whole quarter mile??..” That would be interesting… But seriously, the car is quick. we’ll rematch. I’m sure we can both bring a little more to the table… ---
**Author:** ![87FOXGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ecd19e/32.png) [@87FOXGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87FOXGT)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/85 "2006-05-29T21:05:52Z")
Damn. I love this thread. Props to both guys for being pretty cool about everything even though there are some disagreements. Now theres only one thing left to do. Set your cars on kill mode and do it again. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BaD_AZz_Z_28)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/86 "2006-05-29T21:34:48Z")
Firehawk853 \> layzie Why? 1. layzie conceded defeat from a stop outright (you know, a drag race, to determine a faster car) 2. did you watch the video? in its tough to get a fair roll race, thats why we drag race. now you just have to play the averages here. in one, he got a good jump and won…chuck chased, his own fault there and he concedes it. in ~7 of 8 races, chuck was ahead and/or layzie let off after the start. 3. layzie broke 4. people cant bitch about letting off 5mph early and “not running a full quarter mile” when we asked to start at zero and the runs started at 60 instead Every race that happened was taped, and between the two videos, you have seen it all. For the sake of a decent video, they are split. If you think the video is slanted towards the hawk, thats because it is: I have a picture of his car and not layzies, and he was winning the races. No fancing editing past that. Both cars had good runs, neither was flying past the other. Im sure layzie will race gas his way to a highway championship and chuck will dead hook 10s, so the real question is w **hy are the 15 second cars asking the most questions in this thread?** And why didnt someone get out of the way so that the camera car could fly by 😉 ---
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/87 "2006-05-29T22:11:49Z")
> [@BaD AZz Z/28](#): > > **why are the 15 second cars asking the most questions in this thread?** :nods: ---
**Author:** ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/88 "2006-05-29T23:20:34Z")
> [@layzie](#): > > it always ends up into a arguement if the cars are this close. and i dont really care anymore. i had fun racing and thats all i cared about. even when i sheered all the teeth off my 4th i didnt care cuz it was fun time said the best right there. it’s a good time, not a drama inducing thing. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/89 "2006-05-30T05:02:39Z")
> [@turbociv](#): > > wait a second. If the firehawk was trapping over 130 last year in the quarter and is faster now this year, and he is probably trapping higher, then why is he only racing to 120??? thats bullshit. The race should at least go until the 1/4mi mark. Sooooo in all out reality the civic is considerably quicker then the firehawk if its pulling away after 120. > [@turbociv](#): > > thats pretty sweet, next time chuck should try racing a whole quarter mile. > [@turbociv](#): > > hey, stop the lip. The 1/4 mi is over when chucks 4th gear is over. Didnt you get the memo??? > [@turbociv](#): > > then you admit the race wasnt fair because you didnt race for a whole quarter mile. Its not anyones fault that your car isnt geared for the quarter but your own. Fix the problem then go and race again, but atleast be a man about defeat. It is funny that you keep mentioning the quarter mile. You do realize that starting at 60 mph or even 40 mph both car probably covered more distance than a quarter mile. I must also remind you that the quarter mile you keep talking about is 1320 ft. and it starts at 0 mph. Don’t take my word for it check out [www.ihra.com](http://www.ihra.com/) , [www.nhra.com](http://www.nhra.com/) , [www.nira.com](http://www.nira.com/) Ask any of these racer to start from 60 mph because you don’t have traction and watch 100% of then laugh at you like a clown > [@FASTMOFO](#): > > Then none of the runs would be fair cuz they didnt race a “real 1/4 mile” the entire time. Line up next time at the track for the rematch. Cuz after 20 roll races there are discrepancys. For rematch - both guys on slicks, race gas, and HIGH B00ST! I’d say line up on the street but both cars make alot of power and would just spin all over anyways. NYI meet FASTMOFO with some sense in this thread. Take it to NYI or Toronto Motorsports Park ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/90 "2006-05-30T05:18:47Z")
nevermind.:lol: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/91 "2006-05-30T05:22:33Z")
> [@turbociv](#): > > When did you take your car off the road??? Really not the point shithead. The point was you keep mentioning the quarter mile. POINT IS THE QUARTER MILE STARTS AT 0 MPH from a dead stop. There is a tree and a timing device at the end of the track just so there is NO MISTAKE WHO WON. Is that clear enough for you or do you need it in simplier terms. Maybe I could draw you a picture. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/92 "2006-05-30T05:28:24Z")
> [@BaD AZz Z/28](#): > > Firehawk853 \> layzie > > Why? > > 1. layzie conceded defeat from a stop outright (you know, a drag race, to determine a faster car) > 2. did you watch the video? in its tough to get a fair roll race, thats why we drag race. now you just have to play the averages here. in one, he got a good jump and won…chuck chased, his own fault there and he concedes it. in ~7 of 8 races, chuck was ahead and/or layzie let off after the start. > 3. layzie broke > 4. people cant bitch about letting off 5mph early and “not running a full quarter mile” when we asked to start at zero and the runs started at 60 instead > > Every race that happened was taped, and between the two videos, you have seen it all. For the sake of a decent video, they are split. If you think the video is slanted towards the hawk, thats because it is: I have a picture of his car and not layzies, and he was winning the races. No fancing editing past that. > > Both cars had good runs, neither was flying past the other. Im sure layzie will race gas his way to a highway championship and chuck will dead hook 10s, so the real question is w **hy are the 15 second cars asking the most questions in this thread?** > > And why didnt someone get out of the way so that the camera car could fly by 😉 eh, i actually agree with you for once. Both cars have more in them… i’d like to see lazie (both cars actually) on slicks and high boost from a dig, provided that lazie doesn’t strip any more gears. ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/93 "2006-05-30T05:32:34Z")
> [@JnJSpdShop](#): > > Really not the point shithead. The point was you keep mentioning the quarter mile. POINT IS THE QUARTER MILE STARTS AT 0 MPH from a dead stop. There is a tree and a timing device at the end of the track just so there is NO MISTAKE WHO WON. Is that clear enough for you or do you need it in simplier terms. Maybe I could draw you a picture. Now your crossing the line asshole. Is that clear??? Should I draw a picture of i giant ass with a gaping whole so you have a better understanding of yourself??? ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/94 "2006-05-30T05:38:42Z")
> [@turbociv](#): > > Now your crossing the line asshole. Is that clear??? Should I draw a picture of i giant ass with a gaping whole so you have a better understanding of yourself??? haha. unrealated JNJ story: one time i was at jnj’s with my gf’s truck and i was stuck in the snow… i thought it was in 4L… but i didn’t realize it had manual hubs. i felt like such an ass trying to rock it out of there, and he comes out and locks the hubs and i just pull out. :ham: ---
**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/95 "2006-05-30T07:04:25Z")
> [@newman](#): > > eh, i actually agree with you for once :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/96 "2006-05-30T07:19:23Z")
> [@FASTMOFO](#): > > Then none of the runs would be fair cuz they didnt race a “real 1/4 mile” the entire time. Line up next time at the track for the rematch. Cuz after 20 roll races there are discrepancys. For rematch - both guys on slicks, race gas, and HIGH B00ST! I’d say line up on the street but both cars make alot of power and would just spin all over anyways. NYI meet :tspry: Most intelligent post ever well, in this thread. you fucking all are crybabies. ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/97 "2006-05-30T07:23:34Z")
> [@BaD AZz Z/28](#): > > Firehawk853 \> layzie > > Why? > > 1. layzie conceded defeat from a stop outright (you know, a drag race, to determine a faster car) > 2. did you watch the video? in its tough to get a fair roll race, thats why we drag race. now you just have to play the averages here. in one, he got a good jump and won…chuck chased, his own fault there and he concedes it. in ~7 of 8 races, chuck was ahead and/or layzie let off after the start. > 3. layzie broke > 4. people cant bitch about letting off 5mph early and “not running a full quarter mile” when we asked to start at zero and the runs started at 60 instead > > Every race that happened was taped, and between the two videos, you have seen it all. For the sake of a decent video, they are split. If you think the video is slanted towards the hawk, thats because it is: I have a picture of his car and not layzies, and he was winning the races. No fancing editing past that. > > Both cars had good runs, neither was flying past the other. Im sure layzie will race gas his way to a highway championship and chuck will dead hook 10s, so the real question is w **hy are the 15 second cars asking the most questions in this thread?** > > And why didnt someone get out of the way so that the camera car could fly by 😉 I agree very much of what is said here. Minus the fact that instead of the “15 second car drivers” statement, i would replace with “people who weren’t even there”, and sackriders. ---
**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/98 "2006-05-30T07:42:56Z")
> [@BaD AZz Z/28](#): > > Firehawk853 \> layzie > > Why? > > 1. layzie conceded defeat from a stop outright (you know, a drag race, to determine a faster car) > 2. did you watch the video? in its tough to get a fair roll race, thats why we drag race. now you just have to play the averages here. in one, he got a good jump and won…chuck chased, his own fault there and he concedes it. in ~7 of 8 races, chuck was ahead and/or layzie let off after the start. > 3. layzie broke > 4. people cant bitch about letting off 5mph early and “not running a full quarter mile” when we asked to start at zero and the runs started at 60 instead > > Every race that happened was taped, and between the two videos, you have seen it all. For the sake of a decent video, they are split. If you think the video is slanted towards the hawk, thats because it is: I have a picture of his car and not layzies, and he was winning the races. No fancing editing past that. > > Both cars had good runs, neither was flying past the other. Im sure layzie will race gas his way to a highway championship and chuck will dead hook 10s Well said. ---
**Author:** ![badazzss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@badazzss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/badazzss)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/99 "2006-05-30T07:44:01Z")
lollercoaster. the import is fast, the domestic is fast. most of the rolls were won by the domestic. now go from a stop. that is all. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615/100 "2006-05-30T07:45:33Z")
psh i wanna see team badass in the twisties. lol. joking. 😛 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-vs-firehawk853/12615.md?page=6)