# Learning to drive Manual...a question...
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122
**Category:** Canada Nissan Automotive
**Created:** [May 27, 2005, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122 "2005-05-27T08:55:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@RS13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RS13)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/21 "2005-06-04T09:09:40Z")
Or you can use mine as i don’t really care if you fuck it up in anyway
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### Author:  [@1GAlty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1GAlty)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2005, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/22 "2005-06-04T09:22:05Z")
> [@icydude](#):
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> Another great way to learn is mechanicly.
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> If you know how it works the nyou will know hwo to drive it with very little effort.
Sounds interesting! Details please!
> [@quintessence](#):
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> This is the way I do it, since it rev matches both the layshaft and the engine speed to the transmission speed. Double clutch actually also makes it ten times easier to get into 1st gear when u need to downshift into 1st gear. If I tried to downshift into 1st, the way PyreXXX describes, my synchros would never let me and all I’d hear is some grinding dogteeth
Yeah, me too. I think it depends on how many cones your synchros have or something.
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### Author:  [@Jay\_Nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jay_Nismo)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2005, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/23 "2005-06-04T10:40:24Z")
> [@RS13](#):
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> Or you can use mine as i don’t really care if you fuck it up in anyway
Does that go for everyone??
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### Author:  [@RS13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RS13)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/24 "2005-06-04T13:04:43Z")
Sure but no burn outs because the tires are still good.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/25 "2005-06-04T15:50:47Z")
> [@1GAlty](#):
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> [quote=icydude]Another great way to learn is mechanicly.
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> If you know how it works the nyou will know hwo to drive it with very little effort.
Sounds interesting! Details please!
[/quote]
haha details…um maybe not haha
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### Author:  [@Nis240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nis240)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/26 "2005-06-04T16:41:22Z")
No!! i want the tranny.
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### Author:  [@qualthar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/qualthar)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/27 "2005-06-05T22:26:04Z")
> [@1mns13](#):
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> I always suggest learning with your right foot upclose to you away from the gas. Learn to modulate the clutch to get the car moving, without the gas. This will be helpful, for all the rest of the gears. Use a parking lot and do this about 10 times, or till you get the hang of it. Then you’ll have no trouble in traffic.
This is how I learned, picked it up like it was natural. The hardest part for me was starting to move after a stop sign or red light, I would stall occasionally but this method helped out quite a bit.
If you’re just learning to drive standard, you don’t need to know anything about matching your revs or anything like that. If you’re going 60 and need to stop, put the clutch in, shift to neutral and use that pedal they call the “brake” 😛
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### Author:  [@Orzel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orzel)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2005, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/28 "2005-06-06T08:36:33Z")
I went out again last night in a friends S10 and went on yellowhead and what not it was fun. A question about the above qualthar, so instead of downshifting everytime I come to a light I can just put it into neutral and brake instead and then back into first when I need to get going again? Does this method work from all speeds? Like if Im going 110 and I need to emergency stop I push in the clutch and brake at the same time, do I have to worry about the downshift?
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### Author:  [@qualthar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/qualthar)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/29 "2005-06-06T15:22:16Z")
> [@Orzel](#):
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> Does this method work from all speeds? Like if Im going 110 and I need to emergency stop I push in the clutch and brake at the same time, do I have to worry about the downshift?
Yeah, once you’re in neutral you brake just as you would in any car, it doesn’t matter how fast you’re going. I do that all the time when I am going to stop.
But if you need to downshift to slow down, like from 100 to 70 etc… the other methods listed in this topic might be better.
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### Author:  [@Mr\_SARS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_SARS)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2005, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/30 "2005-06-06T15:23:31Z")
> [@Orzel](#):
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> I went out again last night in a friends S10 and went on yellowhead and what not it was fun. A question about the above qualthar, so instead of downshifting everytime I come to a light I can just put it into neutral and brake instead and then back into first when I need to get going again? Does this method work from all speeds? Like if Im going 110 and I need to emergency stop I push in the clutch and brake at the same time, do I have to worry about the downshift?
I think qualthar meant that you should be more focused on the road and stopping rather than downshifting. When I started to learn how to drive standard, I just used my brakes and didn’t worry about downshifting. Don’t get too technical when you start learning, just keep your eyes on the road and slowly try downshifting once you feel comfortable.
PyreXXX\>\>I was always told that it was bad to rev your motor when your clutch is depressed. That’s why I double clutch each time I downshift. :rolleyes: Too many technical things with driving a standard, sometimes I wish I just drove an auto so I can put it into either P, D, or R.
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### Author:  [@qualthar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/qualthar)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/31 "2005-06-06T17:18:41Z")
> [@Mr\_SARS](#):
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> I was always told that it was bad to rev your motor when your clutch is depressed.
Is this actually true? I’ve never heard that one before.
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### Author:  [@Jay\_Nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jay_Nismo)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/32 "2005-06-07T00:09:05Z")
> [@Mr\_SARS](#):
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> [quote=Orzel]I went out again last night in a friends S10 and went on yellowhead and what not it was fun. A question about the above qualthar, so instead of downshifting everytime I come to a light I can just put it into neutral and brake instead and then back into first when I need to get going again? Does this method work from all speeds? Like if Im going 110 and I need to emergency stop I push in the clutch and brake at the same time, do I have to worry about the downshift?
I think qualthar meant that you should be more focused on the road and stopping rather than downshifting. When I started to learn how to drive standard, I just used my brakes and didn’t worry about downshifting. Don’t get too technical when you start learning, just keep your eyes on the road and slowly try downshifting once you feel comfortable.
PyreXXX\>\>I was always told that it was bad to rev your motor when your clutch is depressed. That’s why I double clutch each time I downshift. :rolleyes: Too many technical things with driving a standard, sometimes I wish I just drove an auto so I can put it into either P, D, or R.[/quote]
R for race right?? lol
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### Author:  [@Mr\_SARS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_SARS)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2005, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/33 "2005-06-07T15:52:31Z")
> [@silvia\_180sx\_\_](#):
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> R for race right?? lol
WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO PULL OVER MY EYES MAN?!?!?!?!
R is for Type R, so when you slam on the gas pedal it goes pscchhh. :lol:
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/34 "2005-06-07T19:24:39Z")
> [@qualthar](#):
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> [quote=Mr\_SARS]I was always told that it was bad to rev your motor when your clutch is depressed.
Is this actually true? I’ve never heard that one before.[/quote]
i find it hard to believe but i read the same on GTRC…i dunno
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### Author:  [@PyreXXX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PyreXXX)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/35 "2005-06-07T20:44:58Z")
I can’t possibly imagine why - the clutch disc wouldn’t be in contact with the flywheel. I suppose the only bad thing would be when you let the clutch back out, the clutch would have to slip slightly on the flywheel before the tranmission would speed up, technically shortening the life of the clutch.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/36 "2005-06-07T21:22:44Z")
i can see if a person floored it and held it bouncing off the fuel cut it wouldnt be all that great.
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### Author:  [@Buddyworm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Buddyworm)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/37 "2005-06-07T21:28:33Z")
> [@PyreXXX](#):
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> I can’t possibly imagine why - the clutch disc wouldn’t be in contact with the flywheel. I suppose the only bad thing would be when you let the clutch back out, the clutch would have to slip slightly on the flywheel before the tranmission would speed up, technically shortening the life of the clutch.
I dunno if clutch wear would be so much the case because of the tranny slowing down, wouldn’t the tranny still be in motion because it’s connected to the driveshaft and wheels which are still moving?
B-Wurm 😃
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### Author:  [@PyreXXX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PyreXXX)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2005, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/38 "2005-06-07T21:45:04Z")
Yes, but imagine this, the flywheel, clutch and wheels are turning at a constant rate when you clutch in. Then, as the wheels and tranny continue at the same speed, you rev the motor and let the clutch out. Since the flywheel is now spinning faster, the clutch must speed the transmission up to complete a successful engagement. If you’ve ever downshifted and felt the jerk through the driveline, the clutch speeding the tranny up is exactly what is happening there.
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### Author:  [@Mr\_SARS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_SARS)
#### Post date: [June 8, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/39 "2005-06-08T14:43:29Z")
> [@PyreXXX](#):
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> Yes, but imagine this, the flywheel, clutch and wheels are turning at a constant rate when you clutch in. Then, as the wheels and tranny continue at the same speed, you rev the motor and let the clutch out. Since the flywheel is now spinning faster, the clutch must speed the transmission up to complete a successful engagement. If you’ve ever downshifted and felt the jerk through the driveline, the clutch speeding the tranny up is exactly what is happening there.
Yeah I was always under the impression that the speeding up of the clutch would eventually wear it out faster. But at the same time, the rate of accelerated wear and tear on a clutch isn’t really THAT noticeable. In the end, I don’t think it’d make a huge difference whether or not you’re revving with the clutch in or out.
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### Author:  [@PyreXXX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PyreXXX)
#### Post date: [June 8, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/learning-to-drive-manual-a-question/139122/40 "2005-06-08T17:40:25Z")
No, me either. Unless it has something to do with the throwout bearing…but since that is on the pressure plate side of the clutch (I do believe), I can’t see how itd be affected.
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