# Least expensive WBO2 setup **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [December 8, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927 "2010-12-08T14:34:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/1 "2010-12-08T14:34:22Z")
So I’m basically looking for the cheapest complete WBO2 setup out there. I don’t care what it looks like as long as it’ll work and work well. I know there are $50 eBay setups and $500 baller setups, I just want what works the best for the cheapest. There are a lot of big turbz people on here so hopefully I can get a good amount of suggestions. Gracias ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/2 "2010-12-08T14:37:52Z")
IMHO I would not cheap out on a wideband. ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/3 "2010-12-08T14:40:20Z")
> [@FS: complete vinyl business](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-complete-vinyl-business/37852/2): > > IMHO I would not cheap out on a wideband. That’s the thing, I’m not trying to cheap out at all, just looking for the least expensive one that YOU guys would recommend. If that one is $30 I’ll likely get it or if it’s $300 I’ll likely get it. Not trying to pay for more than I need, AKA not Defi or any ballin shit, just what gets the job done. I don’t care if it’s pink polka dot. ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/4 "2010-12-08T14:45:30Z")
[http://hinsonsupercars.com/p-946-ngk-powerdex-afx-wideband-kit.aspx](http://hinsonsupercars.com/p-946-ngk-powerdex-afx-wideband-kit.aspx) I have used this kit a bunch of times and its my favorite budget minded wideband. The NTK sensor is bulletproof and will far outlast the bosch. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/5 "2010-12-08T15:52:50Z")
buy mine. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/6 "2010-12-08T16:07:44Z")
I had the NGK AFX(the one Paul posted) in my K20 Civic, thing was awesome. I’m almost positive Delucia has the same one in his Civic. I had the AEM UEGO in my coupe and the o2 sensor died relatively fast, probably won’t buy one of those again. The Innovative ones like Brett has for sale are also pretty good for around the same price as the AEM & NGK. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/7 "2010-12-08T16:16:39Z")
FJO with an NTK is **THE BEST** , but they arent cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Leonidas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/leonidas/32/6670_2.png) [@Leonidas](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Leonidas)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/8 "2010-12-08T16:16:47Z")
innovate lc-1 would be my recommendation ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/9 "2010-12-08T16:24:29Z")
> [@got a cool music video?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-a-cool-music-video/35271/20): > > innovate lc-1 would be my recommendation I LOL’d… I have one, it’s the most unreliable and inaccurate piece of horseshit I have ever encountered. A quick Google confirms that others agree. ---
**Author:** ![Leonidas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/leonidas/32/6670_2.png) [@Leonidas](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Leonidas)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/10 "2010-12-08T16:29:15Z")
it works for me. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/11 "2010-12-08T17:11:26Z")
my LC-1 took a shit on me before I even got to use it…and I bought it brand new. Their JUNK. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/12 "2010-12-08T17:13:17Z")
Spend it once and do it right, FJO. Keep it if/when you sell the car and move it to the next purchase. ---
**Author:** ![Leonidas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/leonidas/32/6670_2.png) [@Leonidas](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Leonidas)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/13 "2010-12-08T17:13:27Z")
What were you going by, the gauge? I log with my laptop in HPT and it’s been accurate enough to bring my fuel trims down to 0%. At least it was the last time I used it, haha. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/14 "2010-12-08T17:14:14Z")
> [@Blast from the Past (m5 + s4 inside)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blast-from-the-past-m5-s4-inside/37840/30): > > What were you going by, the gauge? I log with my laptop in HPT and it’s been accurate enough to bring my fuel trims down to 0%. At least it was the last time I used it, haha. thats exactly how I logged mine. HPT through my laptop. thing sucked donkey dick. ---
**Author:** ![Leonidas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/leonidas/32/6670_2.png) [@Leonidas](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Leonidas)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/15 "2010-12-08T17:16:22Z")
Through the a/c pressure switch? Was the HPT figure matching the software #'s? ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/16 "2010-12-08T17:17:06Z")
I can vouch for the Innovate products. Owned the LC-1 for over two years and worked great. I did replaced the sensor twice, but leaded fuel will kill the sensors quick…true with ALL O2 Sensors. ---
**Author:** ![Leonidas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/leonidas/32/6670_2.png) [@Leonidas](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Leonidas)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/17 "2010-12-08T17:18:41Z")
Yeah, see. You stunters probably didn’t set it up right or left the sensor in the exhaust stream without the thing plugged in. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/18 "2010-12-08T17:22:00Z")
Nothing to do with the sensor itself… the controller is a massive piece of garbage. And Leo, I was logging through HPT as well - voltage output was off kilter regardless of the setup and the controller would never actually complete a calibration. I ended up scaling it close enough by using the serial cable and logging several runs and comparing the readings. Fuck that shit. For what it’s worth, they might have improved since then… I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/19 "2010-12-08T17:26:12Z")
ok, I dropped my sensor haha and yes, I had it hooked up right because prior to the drop, it logged fine. After drop, no calibration. 4 ft drop killed the shitty bastard. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927/20 "2010-12-08T17:32:00Z")
Fuck using the A/C pressure sensor PID, I was using EGR, fat dudez need A/C. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/least-expensive-wbo2-setup/255927.md?page=2)