# LED headlights vs HID **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 23, 2014, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906 "2014-10-23T07:00:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/1 "2014-10-23T07:00:39Z")
So has anybody tried the newer generation of LED headlights? these new ones are starting to look tempting example: > **[60W 7600LM Cree ETI Chips LED Headlight Kit H1 H7 9006/HB4 Bulbs | eBay](http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-New-60W-6000LM-Set-Cree-LED-Headlight-30W-Bulbs-H11-H8-H7-H4-9003-9005-9006-/281404883868?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item418509c39c&vxp=mtr)** > > Available Bulb Type(Pick One Size): H1, H7, and 9006/HB4. One Set (1 Pair,Power : 60W/Set 30W/Bulb. Luminous : Up to 7600LM/Set 3800LM/Bulb ) New Design Automotive LED Headlight Conversion Kit ( Plug and Play For Most, Will not fit the Car headlights... ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/2 "2014-10-23T07:28:31Z")
![http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/9/2/6/6/3/2/webimg/775021900_o.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/c/1cd007d2910edf9217b84e446720173fb253345a.jpeg) It’s too bad that product’s kidneys aren’t working. Also: > **The led kit is not suitable for the Germany car, for example: BMW, AUDI, Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz ect.** > Fast cooling , the appearance of the most advanced design , thermal structure ingenious and reasonable. As opposed to those stupid and unreasonable thermal structures out there. > Instant start no strong currents impact , effectively protecting the car comes with a battery , improving battery life of more than 30%. I just… I can’t even. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/3 "2014-10-23T07:32:52Z")
you know how it goes, they don’t know what they are talking about, but that doesn’t mean the product is junk. 2-3 cree LEDs and fan cooling means these probably put out some decent light. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/4 "2014-10-23T07:41:40Z")
I have LED headlights in the jeep, but they are a headlight replacement, rather than a retro kit. One issue I have read about in cold areas is headlight snow buildup. Due to the heat produced in HID or tradition bulbs the snow typically melts on impact. LEDs produce less heat and can cause buildup problems. I haven’t had them through the winter, so I will report back. Light output is vastly improved over the stock headlight, but the stock headlights in the Jeep suck. I know Derek had mentioned that he had installed a number of kits when he was installing my bass tube. @BDR5oh ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/5 "2014-10-23T07:43:14Z")
No, what it means is they’re probably Chinese crap and within a couple months that fan is going to fail and you’ll have a meltdown. I don’t want something as critical as my headlights running so hot that they require fan cooling. And if I have to have one it sure as hell won’t be some shitty Chinese product I can only get on eBay. Should be a fun ride home from Ellicottville in a snowstorm with just the light of the two small fires where my headlights used to be to guide me. The technology might be fine if you spend the money to get something good but you’re crazy to think the eBay Chinese garbage you posted it going to work out. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/6 "2014-10-23T07:50:26Z")
^ I see your point but I have had good luck with ebay HIDs in the past… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/7 "2014-10-23T09:24:09Z")
The part that scares me is the complexity of needing a moving part (fan) to keep an overheating light from melting down. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/8 "2014-10-23T09:25:42Z")
> [@BigRon](#): > > One issue I have read about in cold areas is headlight snow buildup. :tup: I would imagine that with the large heat sync and fan they put off more heat than an HID… I might have to try a set in my audi fog lights to see how they do ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/9 "2014-10-23T09:38:02Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > The part that scares me is the complexity of needing a moving part (fan) to keep an overheating light from melting down. Mine has no fans. > **[Truck-Lite LED Headlight Kit for 07-18 Jeep Wrangler JK](https://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_8000.htm)** > > Our most advanced headlamp upgrade features a solid state bulb-free design for a brighter, crisper and whiter light output that's closer to the color temperature of actual daylight. Edit: I know they are a different product, but just pointing out they might not all need a fan. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/10 "2014-10-23T09:51:47Z")
> [@BigRon](#): > > Mine has no fans. > [Truck-Lite LED Headlight Kit for 07-18 Jeep Wrangler JK | Quadratec](http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_8000.htm) > > Edit: I know they are a different product, but just pointing out they might not all need a fan. Yeah, and yours are $450. I wonder which ones are more likely to catch your car on fire. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/11 "2014-10-23T09:57:11Z")
it looks like the entire back area is a head sync by design ![http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzY4WDIyOQ==/z/qQMAAOSwVFlUGPwh/$_1.JPG](http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzY4WDIyOQ==/z/qQMAAOSwVFlUGPwh/%24_1.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/12 "2014-10-23T10:02:33Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > :tup: I would imagine that with the large heat sync and fan they put off more heat than an HID… They don’t. I haven’t had my 20" bar in the snow yet, but the entire thing looks like a heat sync and it doesn’t put out that much heat. A friend had a 10" on his truck for the past few years and you have to clean it off because it doesn’t melt snow. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/13 "2014-10-23T10:16:46Z")
> [@MPD47](#): > > They don’t. I haven’t had my 20" bar in the snow yet, but the entire thing looks like a heat sync and it doesn’t put out that much heat. A friend had a 10" on his truck for the past few years and you have to clean it off because it doesn’t melt snow. Yeah my 50" bar heat sink fins whistled at high speed so I covered them all up since it never gets that warm. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/14 "2014-10-23T10:42:44Z")
good info… I might test a set in fog lights ---
**Author:** ![mechanicalmadness](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mechanicalmadness/32/5022_2.png) [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/15 "2015-01-05T20:51:37Z")
Realistically you probably don’t actually need the fan. While moving you are more than likely generating enough air flow to cool the heat sink just fine. Plus I somehow doubt that the heat sink will catch your car on fire. If that was the case, than the average run of the mill halogen light would be setting cars on fire left right and center. ---
**Author:** ![SOLITUDE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@SOLITUDE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SOLITUDE)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/16 "2015-01-06T08:24:43Z")
Iv been told by my customers that Traditional Hid’s are still brighter. If someone does some testing with this new kit i am interested for results! ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/17 "2015-01-06T17:30:54Z")
I have LEDs in most of my house. I can say with certainty that they do produce some heat as I’ve put my fingers where they shouldn’t have been… ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/18 "2015-01-06T19:52:16Z")
HIDs are still brighter. No warm up time with the led. The fans on the LEDS are loud to. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/19 "2015-01-07T07:47:59Z")
If the LEDs need fans, maybe someone will create a bulb that has coolant running though it instead… and then the joke about “headlight fluid” won’t be as funny anymore 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906/20 "2015-01-07T08:25:08Z")
> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#): > > HIDs are still brighter. No warm up time with the led. The fans on the LEDS are loud to. so you’ve played with these 1st hand? everybody I know so far is just going by what some guy on some forum heard from somebody else. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/led-headlights-vs-hid/270906.md?page=2)