# Legality of "Wage Garnishing" **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 9, 2013, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627 "2013-02-09T09:02:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/41 "2013-02-11T10:21:34Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > So do you even know how your **_wife_** gets paid? Somewhat. But it varies based on how much you bring in, if you sell a certain amount of product you get a certain amount at the end of the year, at one point she was supposed to be paid “office hours” to do payroll, bills, etc. but wasn’t given it multiple times. They can tax exempt paychecks which sometimes doesn’t happen correctly. It’s just a poorly run business. This was really the compounded to the problem. > [@1QIKZ](#): > > Still in for salon name and terrorist hassling of them after she leaves. Even with others posts, I get the pay cut viewpoint but the way in which the employer us going about this doesn’t sound legal. Do my windows, I’ll tell you all about it :P. I do know the owners of probably the two largest salons in Buffalo being Chez Ann and Leons. But my wife is at the point where she has a decent clientele finally. According to her boss if the employee leaves the salon, they aren’t allowed to mention their new salon or take any clients with them. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/42 "2013-02-11T10:23:36Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > According to her boss if the employee leaves the salon, they aren’t allowed to mention their new salon or take any clients with them. Did she sign some sort of non compete? ---
**Author:** ![cretinx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cretinx/32/6121_2.png) [@cretinx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cretinx)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/43 "2013-02-11T10:26:10Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > needless to say we didn’t really get an answer, and it upset my wife I would again renew my suggestion to speak to a labor attorney. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/44 "2013-02-11T12:44:45Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Did she sign some sort of non compete? Doesn’t matter in a right to work state. Just like you can get fired for anything you can quite for anything. As long as you don’t give proprietary information out you’re ok. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/45 "2013-02-11T12:49:18Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Somewhat. But it varies based on how much you bring in, if you sell a certain amount of product you get a certain amount at the end of the year, at one point she was supposed to be paid “office hours” to do payroll, bills, etc. but wasn’t given it multiple times. They can tax exempt paychecks which sometimes doesn’t happen correctly. > > It’s just a poorly run business. This was really the compounded to the problem. > > Do my windows, I’ll tell you all about it :P. > > I do know the owners of probably the two largest salons in Buffalo being Chez Ann and Leons. But my wife is at the point where she has a decent clientele finally. **According to her boss if the employee leaves the salon, they aren’t allowed to mention their new salon or take any clients with them.** After all of that bullshit, she’s going to listen to a non-legally binding suggestion that she don’t poach clients? Fuck that. What are they going to do if she does take her clients with her? ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/46 "2013-02-11T13:32:23Z")
Most people follow the stylist, not the salon. If she’s getting the shaft, she should take clients with her. Done smartly, there’s ways to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/47 "2013-02-11T13:43:38Z")
So… what world does her boss live in exactly? lol ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/48 "2013-02-11T14:06:02Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > So… what world does her boss live in exactly? lol A religious one. ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/49 "2013-02-11T14:07:52Z")
I went to get my hair cut by a girl I knew at Leon’s a couple years back. She quit and went to work at Chez Ann and definitely took her clients with her. Like stated previously, what’s the old place going to do? Fire her?? Their loss for treating their employees like trash. You don’t fuck with people’s pay. If you give them a raise, you don’t just take it away to pay for store improvements. That’s fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/50 "2013-02-11T14:10:11Z")
She’s been there 6 years, no raises…Her boss say “New clients are your raise”. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/51 "2013-02-11T16:48:12Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > Doesn’t matter in a right to work state. Just like you can get fired for anything you can quite for anything. As long as you don’t give proprietary information out you’re ok. The “at will” employment thing goes out the window in a lawsuit. A former NY corporation I worked for was sued by a worker they let go with TONS of proper documentation. He was hypoglycemic and suspected to have a drinking problem to boot. He was taken out on a stretcher 2x that I recall for blacking out and falling under the desk. I’m unsure of the settlement but he did win money in court. Lame but true. I understand this is the opposing side of the topic at hand, just saying “at will” is awkward at best. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/52 "2013-02-11T16:51:05Z")
Facebook, network, relocate shop. Profit. ---
**Author:** ![reval](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reval/32/5168_2.png) [@reval](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reval)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/53 "2013-02-11T17:49:55Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > She’s been there 6 years, no raises…Her boss say “New clients are your raise”. Pic of said boss? LOL ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/54 "2013-02-11T18:14:01Z")
I don’t want to thread jack but her boss sounds like a scamming money hoarding bitch. As an employer, I know that a business is a team, composed of employees and an employer. Neither can exist without the other, unless your business is a small one based on solely the labors of one person. If employees make me money, they deserve to share in the rewards. They also have to bear in mind employers take a certain amount of risk and bear the brunt of the financial burden, especially if things go wrong. I sincerely believe someone would take issue with me simply taking monies due an employee and using it for other means, even if it doesn’t go directly into my pocket. Whether it’s in salary, or tips, it shouldn’t matter. If there’s gong to be any sort of pay cut, I would make the employees aware of it with an explanation as to why. What would be the difference between what she’s doing and embezzlement or outright stealing? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/55 "2013-02-11T18:47:02Z")
I don’t see how this is any different then a company changing % of commission for any reason they see fit. ---
**Author:** ![pirite](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pirite/32/5308_2.png) [@pirite](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pirite)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/56 "2013-02-11T21:12:43Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > I recently parted ways with a company that had 6 figures in labor law violations last year. x2 on this. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/57 "2013-02-12T05:51:41Z")
> [@1QIKZ](#): > > I don’t want to thread jack but her boss sounds like a scamming money hoarding bitch. As an employer, I know that a business is a team, composed of employees and an employer. Neither can exist without the other, unless your business is a small one based on solely the labors of one person. If employees make me money, they deserve to share in the rewards. They also have to bear in mind employers take a certain amount of risk and bear the brunt of the financial burden, especially if things go wrong. I sincerely believe someone would take issue with me simply taking monies due an employee and using it for other means, even if it doesn’t go directly into my pocket. Whether it’s in salary, or tips, it shouldn’t matter. If there’s gong to be any sort of pay cut, I would make the employees aware of it with an explanation as to why. What would be the difference between what she’s doing and embezzlement or outright stealing? :tup: you sir, sound like a fantastic employer who sets the correct expectations. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/58 "2013-02-12T06:12:11Z")
> [@1QIKZ](#): > > I don’t want to thread jack but her boss sounds like a scamming money hoarding bitch. As an employer, I know that a business is a team, composed of employees and an employer. Neither can exist without the other, unless your business is a small one based on solely the labors of one person. If employees make me money, they deserve to share in the rewards. They also have to bear in mind employers take a certain amount of risk and bear the brunt of the financial burden, especially if things go wrong. I sincerely believe someone would take issue with me simply taking monies due an employee and using it for other means, even if it doesn’t go directly into my pocket. Whether it’s in salary, or tips, it shouldn’t matter. If there’s gong to be any sort of pay cut, I would make the employees aware of it with an explanation as to why. What would be the difference between what she’s doing and embezzlement or outright stealing? This is the correct way to do business. My wife is always the person putting in the most work. She covers for people, stays late to take people, comes in early and does the office work because everyone else is too inept to use a computer. When she was living in Alden there were numerous times where she would get called to come in early even though it was a 40min drive. She had coworkers call in from the snow even though they lived \<10min away from her. She’s never gotten compensation for it, and nobody else would return the favor. When they would do hair shows or something else of the sort, my wife would do all the work setting up, and getting everything ready. I’m not just hyping her up because she’s my wife, this is just her work ethic. > [@LZ](#): > > I don’t see how this is any different then a company changing % of commission for any reason they see fit. Technically you may be right (I’m still unaware of the actual correct protocol), but it’s a shit move for your employer to basically cut pay to pay for expenses that you have no control over or benefit you in anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/59 "2013-02-12T06:54:12Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Technically you may be right (I’m still unaware of the actual correct protocol), but it’s a shit move for your employer to basically cut pay to pay for expenses that you have no control over or benefit you in anyway. Technically you may be right, but it’s a shit move to assume that the renovations don’t make it a better, more attactive facility for her stylists and their clientel. Your environment changes everything. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627/60 "2013-02-12T07:26:39Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > Technically you may be right, but it’s a shit move to assume that the renovations don’t make it a better, more attactive facility for her stylists and their clientel. Your environment changes everything. IIRC it was to fix structural damage. Aside from that the place is pretty 90s drab. Even a bucket of paint would make it look better. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legality-of-wage-garnishing/228627.md?page=4)