# Legalize it? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 1, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812 "2008-02-01T22:39:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![SVT3945](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/svt3945/32/7409_2.png) [@SVT3945](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SVT3945)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/181 "2008-02-04T12:56:38Z")
who are any of us to judge?? as far as im concerned everything is ok as long as its done in moderation. All it is is pleasure, no differnt then going golfing or jerking off. No one gets hurt as long as things are done in moderation. ---
**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/182 "2008-02-04T12:59:39Z")
> [@Willybeen](#): > > are you serious.?.. redbull vs pot… when i drive on redbull… im more alert… when i drive on weed (which i never have) but when people do, they are relaxed, drowsy, etc etc… that comparison is retarded > > SOME FUN FACTS ABOUT WEED > > **Marijuana Facts** > > - Effects of smoking marijuana are felt within minutes, reach their peak in 10 to 30 minutes, and may linger for two or three hours. > - Marijuana is the most often used illegal drug in this country. > - Marijuana decreases the body’s ability to fight diseases is weakened. > - Generally, traces (metabolites) of THC can be detected by standard urine testing methods several days after a smoking session. However, in heavy chronic users, traces can sometimes be detected for weeks after they have stopped using marijuana. > - In 1995, 165,000 people entering drug treatment programs reported marijuana as their primary drug of addiction, showing they need help to stop using the drug. > - Smoking marijuana causes some changes in the brain that are like those caused by cocaine, heroin, and alcohol. > - People who smoke marijuana often develop the same kinds of breathing problems that cigarette smokers have: coughing and wheezing. They tend to have more chest colds than nonusers. They are also at greater risk of getting lung infections like pneumonia. > - In one study conducted in Memphis, TN, researchers found that, of 150 reckless drivers who were tested for drugs at the arrest scene, 33 percent tested positive for marijuana, and 12 percent tested positive for both marijuana and cocaine. > - Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, one of nearly 400 chemicals in a hemp plant, accounts for most of marijuana’s psychoactive, or mind-altering, effects. The strength of the drug is determined by the amount of THC it contains. > - THC suppresses the neurons in the information-processing system of the hippocampus, the part of the brain that is crucial for learning, memory, and the integration of sensory experiences with emotions and motivation. > - Smoking marijuana decreases blood flow to the brain. > - Marijuana is classified as a “psychotropic” or “psychoactive” drug and is highly addictive for some individuals. > - Marijuana has a strong and distinct odor that is not easy to wash off and that can remain on the breath despite repeated brushing. > - You can get high from second hand marijuana smoke. > - Because it is part of the illegal drug trade and is the most widely used illegal substance in North America, marijuana is a major contributor (directly and indirectly) to petty crime and drug related violence. > - Some scientific studies have found that babies born to marijuana users were shorter, weighed less, and had smaller head sizes than those born to mothers who did not use the drug. > - Studies have shown that marijuana lowers testosterone levels in men. > - Marijuana use can also lower sperm counts possibly resulting in difficulty in having children. > - Females who use marijuana, over time, increase their levels of testosterone which can result in increased facial hair and acne, and may adversely affect reproductive functioning in women. > - Marijuana is the most frequently used illegal drug in the United States. Nearly 69 million Americans over the age of 12 have tried marijuana at least once. > - Researchers report that marijuana cigarettes release five times as much carbon monoxide into the bloodstream and three times as much tar into the lungs of smokers as tobacco cigarettes.([marijuana facts by marijuana detox.com](http://www.marijuana-detox.com/m-facts.htm)) > > SOME FUN FACTS ABOUT REDBULL AND ENERGY DRINKS > > - IT GIVES YOU WINGSDumb argument > > DOT sinse youve never driven high on weed…how can you even begin to make assumptions of what its like? that statement was just ignorant. your talking 2 different kinds of drugs, of course the effects are going to be different. the doping effect of nyquil is a better comparison. i was comparing them because their both commonly used recreational drugs in our society. of 150 reckless drivers tested…33% tested positive for marijuana? seeing as how marijuana stays in your system for a month, how does this prove the drivers were infact high? basically all your marijuana facts have told me is… a) it gets you high b) its used by alot of people c) it has negative health effects if you smoke it or are a chronic user d) it smells e) sinse its illegal, people distributing it break laws nothing here shows me that it has any more a negative impact on society than other legal recreational drugs. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/183 "2008-02-04T13:01:53Z")
did willybean quote me in a good or bad way ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/184 "2008-02-04T13:15:28Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > did willybean quote me in a good or bad way In a bad way, you should fight him. :eekdance: meet by the XXX after school gets out. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/185 "2008-02-04T13:19:03Z")
no need to fight ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/186 "2008-02-04T13:26:22Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > did willybean quote me in a good or bad way In a good way buddy… :grouphug: > [@d3x](#): > > sinse youve never driven high on weed…how can you even begin to make assumptions of what its like? i think its dumb, why would i drive high? I dont need to hit my thumb with a hammer to know that its going to hurt… > [@d3x](#): > > of 150 reckless drivers tested…33% tested positive for marijuana? seeing as how marijuana stays in your system for a month, how does this prove the drivers were infact high? good argument… but they still smoke… within the past week most likely… meh… 33% is a relatively high statistic, so prove to me that they havent been smoking… or on drugs… You need to disprove me to make a relevant argument > [@d3x](#): > > basically all your marijuana facts have told me is… > a) it gets you high > b) its used by alot of people > c) it has negative health effects if you smoke it or are a chronic user > d) it smells > e) sinse its illegal, people distributing it break laws > > nothing here shows me that it has any more a negative impact on society than other legal recreational drugs. then lets make them illegal too, but make another thread for that… THIS TOPIC IS… SHOULD WEED BE LEGAL… and I say NEGATIVE ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/187 "2008-02-04T13:27:41Z")
I knew it was good and Jeremy was toying with my emotions…he abuses me so ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/188 "2008-02-04T13:56:17Z")
> [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > three lefts make a right… they just need one more. > > Is there any good to weed? other than to “relax” at the cost of pumping carcinogens into your lungs? vaporize, bake it, make tea, etc. etc… there are a ton of ways to consume without the harmful effects of smoking… ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/189 "2008-02-04T14:04:33Z")
there are other harmful effects aside from the smoking aspect. And… how many people smoke it vs the alternatives.? Id be surprised to see if that number was any higher than 80/20 split toward smokers ---
**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/190 "2008-02-04T16:43:32Z")
i think this is the most pointless argument ever brought up on nyspeed. i havent read it, nor do i care to, but to see this going 8 pages is sad. 1.) it will NEVER be legalized(at most it will be decriminalized on the local level like some places in CO) 2.) it can not be monopolyzed, so again, IT WILL NEVER BE LEGAL. 3.) the federal government’s views, as with many of yours, are so outdated and FALSE that it WILL NEVER BE LEGAL. 4.) the majority of society still considers “pot” to be a “dangerous and serious threat”—which is a huge joke and the biggest problem with the opposition’s “ignorance” towards “pot”—are you going to be robbed to a bunch of stoner’s or a bunch of crackheads?..exactly 5.) the opposition considers marijuana to be a gateway drug and the “stepping stone” to “harder drugs”—ask any true “stoner” and they consider hard drugs as bad and do not partake in use of them…this view is held greatly in europe/the surrounding areas, that weed is a great form of relaxation and mental health stability and that other drugs(cocaine,pills,XTC,etc) are greatly looked down upon. 6.) the general population still holds similar beliefs to those found in reefer madness and other marijuana propaganda movies making marijuana out to be the root of all evil and the reason our daughters get raped at parties/in the cities at night. furthermore, that people who smoke pot are soul-less, murderuous, stupified, lazy and “bottom rung of society” types. if u think pot is evil and/or it creates violence and is increasingly the reason “terrorism” is “funded” youre a joke. grow up. open your eyes. relax. take a fucking toke and expand your damn brain. -----and for all the people who argue against marijuana and drink alcohol you should be fucking hanged for your ignorance. alc. is FAR FAR FAR more of a problem and ruins millions more lives than marijuana. /rant:hang: ---
**Author:** ![MiniSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minisrt4/32/7225_2.png) [@MiniSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MiniSRT4)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/191 "2008-02-04T17:25:02Z")
edit:^^^^ exactly leagalize all drugs… let people make theyre own decisions… i dont do it, but c’mon, alchohol and tobacco products are legal, both are worse for you than pot ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/192 "2008-02-05T06:27:22Z")
> [@SoloIIscoob](#): > > i think this is the most pointless argument ever brought up on nyspeed. > > i havent read it, nor do i care to, but to see this going 8 pages is sad. > > 1.) it will NEVER be legalized(at most it will be decriminalized on the local level like some places in CO) > 2.) it can not be monopolyzed, so again, IT WILL NEVER BE LEGAL. > 3.) the federal government’s views, as with many of yours, are so outdated and FALSE that it WILL NEVER BE LEGAL. > 4.) the majority of society still considers “pot” to be a “dangerous and serious threat”—which is a huge joke and the biggest problem with the opposition’s “ignorance” towards “pot”—are you going to be robbed to a bunch of stoner’s or a bunch of crackheads?..exactly > 5.) the opposition considers marijuana to be a gateway drug and the “stepping stone” to “harder drugs”—ask any true “stoner” and they consider hard drugs as bad and do not partake in use of them…this view is held greatly in europe/the surrounding areas, that weed is a great form of relaxation and mental health stability and that other drugs(cocaine,pills,XTC,etc) are greatly looked down upon. > > 6.) the general population still holds similar beliefs to those found in reefer madness and other marijuana propaganda movies making marijuana out to be the root of all evil and the reason our daughters get raped at parties/in the cities at night. furthermore, that people who smoke pot are soul-less, murderuous, stupified, lazy and “bottom rung of society” types. > > if u think pot is evil and/or it creates violence and is increasingly the reason “terrorism” is “funded” youre a joke. grow up. open your eyes. relax. take a fucking toke and expand your damn brain. > > -----and for all the people who argue against marijuana and drink alcohol you should be fucking hanged for your ignorance. alc. is FAR FAR FAR more of a problem and ruins millions more lives than marijuana. > > /rant:hang: I agree slappy but you see reefer is decriminalized in the great state of New York, and with various forms of medical marijuana produced by large pharmaceutical company’s who are HUGE lobbyist to the local, state, and federal government if they see profit, they will get what they want; that being said after years of people being acceptable of “medical marijuana” there will be in years to come strict legalization. Hell it took the American government 161 years to make it illegal, don’t worry my friend with it becoming more and more tolerable amongst youth today (and this vary 8 page document proves my point) when our generation controls the way things go you will see a change in the ways… that is all… ---
**Author:** ![TheKID](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TheKID](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TheKID)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/193 "2008-02-07T13:43:57Z")
Why not legalize it? If you really think about it, you only have 1 life to live and there are millions of laws and rules telling you what you can and cannot do. You cant just enjoy life. Obviously there are laws that need to be there, but there is no reason marijuana should be illegal… All it does is make you feel good, and because someone at some time decided it was bad you’re not supposed to use it. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/194 "2008-02-07T14:23:30Z")
your one life to live argument is a slippery slope because you impact the lives of other people. ---
**Author:** ![02svtfocus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/02svtfocus/32/7318_2.png) [@02svtfocus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/02svtfocus)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/195 "2008-02-07T15:09:29Z")
> [@TheKID](#): > > Why not legalize it? If you really think about it, you only have 1 life to live and there are millions of laws and rules telling you what you can and cannot do. You cant just enjoy life. Obviously there are laws that need to be there, but there is no reason marijuana should be illegal… All it does is make you feel good, and because someone at some time decided it was bad you’re not supposed to use it. so all narcotics should be legalized because “they make you feel good”? ---
**Author:** ![TheKID](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TheKID](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TheKID)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/196 "2008-02-07T15:22:21Z")
The drugs like Marijuana which have no negative effects proven: If you pick off an apple an eat it, what is the difference between picking a bud and smoking it? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/197 "2008-02-07T15:23:25Z")
> [@TheKID](#): > > The drugs like Marijuana which have no negative effects proven: > > If you pick off an apple an eat it, what is the difference between picking a bud and smoking it? haha Did you really just compare eating a apple…to SMOKING something… ---
**Author:** ![JCE814](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7cd45c/32.png) [@JCE814](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JCE814)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/198 "2008-02-07T15:27:13Z")
Legalizing marijuana would bring a huge boost to the American Economy. And for the people who say that it makes people unproductive and retarded, I completely disagree. I frequently smoke pot and go to school full time, obtaining at least a 3.0 GPA, and I work 30-40 hours a week (believe it or not). And for the people who say marijuana is a gateway drug; thats a person’s decision to go on and be stupid and try hard drugs. I smoke alot and drink occasionally, I don’t do any other drugs. And how many deaths have been recorded from marijuana? Oh, yea, that;s right ZERO. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/199 "2008-02-07T15:30:10Z")
:tup: to the 3.0 gpa at ECC… Serious accomplishment there lol, I just actually read the rest… LOL @ boost for the american economy lol _Today in the news Fritos-Lay has had an astronomical jump in stock almost doubling in less than a week_ ---
**Author:** ![JCE814](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7cd45c/32.png) [@JCE814](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JCE814)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812/200 "2008-02-07T15:43:26Z")
You sure about that one? How would it NOT help the economy? You are definitely one of those guys that goes down to chippewa every weekend with your popped collar and starts fights for no reason. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/legalize-it/42812.md?page=11)