# Let the Bears pay the Bear Tax....I pay the Homer Tax.

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**Category:** PolitiSUCK\
**Created:** [January 8, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065 "2013-01-08T07:25:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/21 "2013-01-08T08:59:57Z")

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> [@LUKE\_L](#):
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> ^ You have a very interesting keyboard rant stroke. Are you left handed? 🙂

only most of the time 😉

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/22 "2013-01-08T09:03:56Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> 4.2-6.2? So mine’s going up $122/mo? Balls.

TIL: how much money fry makes…

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/23 "2013-01-08T09:13:50Z")

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lol I better double check my math. Though I’m not sure if I’d rather people think I make more or less than I do.

…nope, I was off by a bit. 🙂 I may be more or less baller than I appear.

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/24 "2013-01-08T09:20:30Z")

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> [@LUKE\_L](#):
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> I find it so FUCKED that a “well” educated, single individual, with a decent job, can’t enjoy life because of thier tax bracket in NYS

BUT IT’S SO CHEAP LIVING IN BUFFALO!!!

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/25 "2013-01-08T09:38:55Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> only most of the time 😉

:rimshot:…LOL

> [@focusinprogress](#):
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> BUT IT’S SO CHEAP LIVING IN BUFFALO!!!

My property taxes went up as well. I’m less scorn about that.

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/26 "2013-01-08T09:43:40Z")

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There’s so much wrong it’s difficult to talk about. But the biggest contributing factor is the lack of cuts. We can’t have our cake and eat it too…with the debt we are in as a country we have to either pay up or just go ahead and default on our loans (as a government).

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/27 "2013-01-08T09:47:58Z")

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Agreed… I get a pay raise and my health insurance rates go **down** … but my paycheck still goes down! WTF???

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/28 "2013-01-08T09:53:37Z")

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Make more money

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/29 "2013-01-08T09:54:38Z")

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If you want to believe we are in a down economy forever then sure you have to cut, but spending is what puts money on the street and makes the economy grow so you don’t really want to cut back as it would worsen the situation. We don’t have to pay up because our economy is the global standard, we could play this game for a long long time, not that it’s a good idea to view it this way.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/30 "2013-01-08T09:57:51Z")

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Funny coincidence, this day in 1835 was the first and only time the US paid off its debt in its entire history.

[http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/04/15/135423586/when-the-u-s-paid-off-the-entire-national-debt-and-why-it-didnt-last](http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/04/15/135423586/when-the-u-s-paid-off-the-entire-national-debt-and-why-it-didnt-last)

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/31 "2013-01-08T10:00:36Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Make more money

I’m already paying 37.65% of every dollar I make now… I’ll still be loosing that much until it bumps to 40.65%! (progressiveness not included; just the top rate).

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/32 "2013-01-08T10:07:19Z")

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if you’re paying a true effective rate of 37% then you’re doing something seriously wrong with your money management.

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/33 "2013-01-08T10:10:47Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> if you’re paying a true effective rate of 37% then you’re doing something seriously wrong with your money management.

I didn’t say effective; see the ending statement at the end of what I wrote.

My effective overall tax rate is down about 10%.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/34 "2013-01-08T10:13:23Z")

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only the effective rate really matters, right?

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/35 "2013-01-08T10:22:34Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Make more money

I’m trying to…

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/36 "2013-01-08T10:26:01Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> Funny coincidence, this day in 1835 was the first and only time the US paid off its debt in its entire history.
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> [When U.S. Paid Off National Debt (Why It Didn't Last) : Planet Money : NPR](http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/04/15/135423586/when-the-u-s-paid-off-the-entire-national-debt-and-why-it-didnt-last)

They paid it off without the rich paying ANY personal income tax? Unpossible!

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/37 "2013-01-08T10:52:39Z")

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Well… they did it by forcing Indians off their lands and selling them off in a huge real estate bubble that led to the longest depression in our country’s history, but yeah they paid them off without an income tax.

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/38 "2013-01-08T11:00:19Z")

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Indians. Even when it was the Bears I knew it was them…

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/39 "2013-01-08T11:01:47Z")

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Slurpee or Casino?

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/40 "2013-01-08T11:08:30Z")

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