# Let the Bears pay the Bear Tax....I pay the Homer Tax.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065>\
**Category:** PolitiSUCK\
**Created:** [January 8, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065 "2013-01-08T07:25:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/121 "2013-01-09T15:42:31Z")

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> [@tpgsr](#):
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> I work hard for the money I make. I do not like giving it to people that do not work as hard as I do.

How unamerican

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**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/122 "2013-01-09T16:10:35Z")

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> [@tpgsr](#):
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> I work hard for the money I make. I do not like giving it to people that do not work as hard as I do.

I feel very much the same. I’ve leaned on the system before & claimed unemployment to keep the bills paid. I didn’t like it, nor did I want to make it a habit. I beat feet, moved on, actually moved and got another job pretty quick. System is there for different reasons than many are manipulating it for unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/123 "2013-01-09T17:25:17Z")

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In order to avoid SS payments I think my salary for this year will be zero. :snky: … Yeah right, I wish it was that easy. ☹ they get you one way or the other.

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**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/124 "2013-01-09T18:05:15Z")

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heres an interesting entitlement situation, theres a town in NY, 20k residents, all non english speaking jews, huge families all popping out 6,7,8,9,10 kids.  
THE most impoverished city of its size in the USA, 40% of residents on food stamps, 8k people in one fucking small town on food stamps popping out babies like no tomorrow!  
Anyone see a problem with this??

> **[Kiryas Joel, New York](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel,_New_York)**
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> Kiryas Joel (Yiddish: קרית יואל‎, Kiryas Yoyel, Yiddish pronunciation: \[ˈkɪʁ.jəs ˈjɔɪ.əl\], often locally abbreviated as KJ) is a village within the town of Monroe in Orange County, New York, United States. The majority of its residents are Yiddish-speaking Hasidic Jews who belong to the worldwide Satmar Hasidic sect. Kiryas Joel is part of the Poughkeepsie–Newburgh– Middletown, NY Metropolitan Statistical Area as well as the larger New York–Newark–Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Are...

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/125 "2013-01-09T18:33:53Z")

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> [@9c1ny](#):
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> heres an interesting entitlement situation, theres a town in NY, 20k residents, all non english speaking jews, huge families all popping out 6,7,8,9,10 kids.  
> THE most impoverished city of its size in the USA, 40% of residents on food stamps, 8k people in one fucking small town on food stamps popping out babies like no tomorrow!  
> Anyone see a problem with this??
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> [Kiryas Joel, New York - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel,_New_York)

Jews on food stamps. No way.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/126 "2013-01-09T18:54:31Z")

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> [@brilliantyellowg60](#):
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> i dont care if you make $1000/year , 26K/year, or 26,000,000/year, everyone should pay taxes

Everyone does. Unless they don’t buy or sell anything, own property, have a job, have a bank account that pays any interest, etc. for their whole life.

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/127 "2013-01-10T09:41:19Z")

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update from today’s paycheck… I got a 2% cost of living increase effective january 1st. This SHOULD have made for about $23 extra per week in my check take-home, now with the fiscal-cliff-“avoidance” BS, my check is $9.01 LESS…AFTER a 2% increase. FUCKERS. Good thing my anniversary date is Feb. 27th so I’ll get a $1/hr raise in a month.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/128 "2013-01-10T09:51:40Z")

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> [@9c1ny](#):
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> and before people jump in and say “step increase? I haven’t had a raise in years” a step increase isn’t a raise , NY state devised a system where it takes you 7 years of employment to reach the “prevailing wage” of your job, so it’s basically a way to withhold money from you for the first 7 years of your career

So you work for the state?

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/129 "2013-01-10T10:01:56Z")

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^ I’m guessing that applies for hourly employees as well.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/130 "2013-01-10T10:15:39Z")

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Here a pretty chart of what changed

![http://i.imgur.com/Yf2xM.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/Yf2xM.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/131 "2013-01-10T10:29:34Z")

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So if you make less than $110,100 only the top line changed. Offset a bit if you get mileage or buy transit passes.

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**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/132 "2013-01-10T11:15:23Z")

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> [@focusinprogress](#):
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> update from today’s paycheck… I got a 2% cost of living increase effective january 1st. This SHOULD have made for about $23 extra per week in my check take-home, now with the fiscal-cliff-“avoidance” BS, my check is $9.01 LESS…AFTER a 2% increase. FUCKERS. Good thing my anniversary date is Feb. 27th so I’ll get a $1/hr raise in a month.

yeah its fun that way…they base the 2% raise on the lesser amount you were making then the 2% extra tax on the new higher amount leaving you with less than you started.

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> [@Joe](#):
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> Everyone does. Unless they don’t buy or sell anything, own property, have a job, have a bank account that pays any interest, etc. for their whole life.

i think everyone knows what is meant by this statement is that everyone pay all of the same kinds of taxes… in this specific case regular old income tax…

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> [@tpgsr](#):
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> I work hard for the money I make. I do not like giving it to people that do not work as hard as I do.

i feel very similarly…actually it is more like i would have no problem paying higher taxes if i felt like they were actually doing something effective or if those making the calls to spend that money didn’t use it so wastefully in so many ridiculous ways.

my wife and i do very well for ourselves and for the past few years we have worked day and night, weekends, holidays, etc so we could get to where we are and i still keep the thermostat at 70 because there is no point in being wasteful just because you have the means to do so… the government should take a similar approach. work hard to get the revenue that is available but don’t just blow it all on stupid policies just because there is money available to do so.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/133 "2013-01-10T11:32:59Z")

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everybody spends differently when it’s not their money.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/134 "2013-01-10T11:41:54Z")

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Not true I spend my company’s money like my own, I’m a jew.

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/135 "2013-01-10T13:14:05Z")

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^ What he said. I get a $500/day limit before I need a signature but I have my boss sign for everything. Even a $30 tool.

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**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-bears-pay-the-bear-tax-i-pay-the-homer-tax/228065/136 "2013-01-10T21:37:27Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> So you work for the state?

yes, I am an hourly employee

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