# let the debate begin...

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [June 18, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866 "2009-06-18T13:45:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866/101 "2009-06-21T18:31:22Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL Buffalo Sabres Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-thread/25170/1075):
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> ☆ [**网站优化**](http://www.jkw.name/wangzhanyouhua.htm)的作用 1.网站提高网页排名。 2.网站使客户容易找到您的网站及相关内容。 3.网站提高网站的收益。 ☆ 自然排名和竞价排名[**网站优化**](http://www.jkw.name/wangzhanyouhua.htm)是对网站本身进行分析和调整使，其对友好，是一种自然排名，注意这里并没有限定是哪一个。而竞价排名对网站本身不做任何改变，网站只是在某一个的搜索结果页面上花钱买靠前的位置 。 网站在[**google排名**](http://www.jingke.org.cn/googlepaiming.htm)里这种竞价排名的位置在右侧，自然排名的位置在左侧

awesome.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866/102 "2009-06-22T21:59:12Z")

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Just a side note:

I listened to an interview with a recent upper level manager at GM who stated, probably truthfully that:  
" Todays American men and Womenr, between the ages of 18-28 will not give a domestic car a chance, not the time of day, not an opportunity". He spent a few minutes on the subject and explained how the slow moving process at GM and other domestic producers simply couldnt keep up with the changes and desires like the imported companys could. They found themselves unable to create the market, but instead chase it… and now find a loyal following of “anything but domestic”.  
Whats unfortunate here is it is true, many in that age group, even those civil minded, smart and level headed, are in fact Jaded, perhaps with good reason, but so jaded that Domestics have a long way to go to be accepted again in the newer generation.

Buying domestically is ALWAYS good for the American economy to a greater extent than buying an import, even when it may not have been as good for the end users initial pocket book… but there were and are ramifications, some that have been realized recently.

There are and were smart people at domestic companies who simply couldnt stop the bleeding, and many wish they had the chance at the 18-28s again, but that market segment m,ay be slightly written of…or catered too. We shall see.

Buick came in #1 in JD Power for reliability this year… thats add.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866/103 "2009-06-22T22:11:10Z")

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> [@How many of you own/have owned a car that is/was older than you?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-of-you-own-have-owned-a-car-that-is-was-older-than-you/19774/38):
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> Buick came in #1 in JD Power for reliability this year… thats add.

that was shocking to read about.

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**Author:** ![Fn\_Skanks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fn_skanks/32/6308_2.png) [@Fn\_Skanks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fn_Skanks)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866/104 "2009-06-23T06:37:41Z")

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> [@Another Discussion Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-discussion-thread/19596/27):
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> Well hed be sorly mistaken to think im some pushover dumbshit behind a keybored himself…
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> I love how people tend to act like assholes on here and think they know someone then in person its a completey differant story.

plus one :crazy

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**Author:** ![imported\_ST4TUS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_st4tus/32/6290_2.png) [@imported\_ST4TUS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_ST4TUS)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866/105 "2009-06-25T09:32:56Z")

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