# let the debate begin... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [June 18, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866 "2009-06-18T13:45:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 16
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866/16 "2009-06-18T14:28:24Z")
> [@hands down, BEST political ad ever lol](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hands-down-best-political-ad-ever-lol/19565/7): > > This doesn’t mean that they are the best cars out there, though… > > Anything will last if you take good care of it. I don’t buy into the “Toyota Reliability” or any of that bullshit. Buy what you like and take care of it, and it will last a long time… You can call engineering reliability into something BS and although it’s true most car enthusiasts take care of their stuff, most of the general public does not. It also takes more talent and foresight to be able to incorporate things into the design that make the machine easier to service, less susceptible to breakdown, sturdier overall, without incurring an unreasonable purchase price or negatively impacting manufacture-ability. I think that Toyota manages to do all of this pretty well. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866)._