# let the debate begin...

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [June 18, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866 "2009-06-18T13:45:16Z")
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### Author: ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866/21 "2009-06-18T14:31:38Z")

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> [@witnessed camaro\>black turbo integra](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/witnessed-camaro-black-turbo-integra/19514/39):
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> The jury is still out on them , they havent been out long enough. As far as i can see the Cobalt is the same as a cavalier, aside from the SS, those are pretty nice.

I disagree. Even the LS bare bones Cobalt is a HUGE step up in quality and ergonomics from the old and dated Cavalier. My parents own the LS model, and I gotta admit it’s a nice car for what it is. It rides great and like I said, ergonomics and fit+finish is a HUGE step up from the Cavalier.

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