# let the debate begin...

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [June 18, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866 "2009-06-18T13:45:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/let-the-debate-begin/244866/34 "2009-06-18T17:20:49Z")

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> [@hands down, BEST political ad ever lol](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hands-down-best-political-ad-ever-lol/19565/7):
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> This doesn’t mean that they are the best cars out there, though…
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> Anything will last if you take good care of it. I don’t buy into the “Toyota Reliability” or any of that bullshit. Buy what you like and take care of it, and it will last a long time…

193k and climbing. original timing set… have another toyota in the corral that went 191k on the STOCK clutch. id say toyota builds a solid powertrain.

all i have had to do on my car is a wheel bearing, tierod end, and i replaced the halfshafts because the felt loose. not bad for 190+

the gto has 30k and already sucks… GM reliabilty\< toyota reliability

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