# Lets talk roadsters.  Specifically Z4M roadsters.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 18, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938 "2016-05-18T19:09:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/41 "2016-05-19T09:04:53Z")

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> [@Beck](#):
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> Yeah, you’re probably right. I should probably look into buying a mile’d out luxury car so people can perceive me as more manly.

Shots fired. lol

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/42 "2016-05-19T09:07:07Z")

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> [@Josh](#):
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> This depends on what it’s being used for. If you’re trying to do any competitive driving at all in it (track days, auto-x, etc) I’d get a super depreciated Elise as those have fallen into the low-mid $20k’s or the S2000. If you’re trying to just have a summer cruiser, fuck it, get the thing you want most because who cares about performance spec.

I was looking at Elise’s. I wouldn’t want to DD one in the summer.

No competitive driving whatsoever. I’ll probably never take the thing over 5,000 RPM.

I don’t really have a preference except that I can find an M roadster a lot easier than an S2000. (And I know enough about the S2000 to buy one. I don’t know a whole lot about anything BMW.)

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> [@JayS](#):
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> _Return_ Shots fired. lol

Fixed for you. 😉

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/43 "2016-05-19T09:13:15Z")

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> [@Beck](#):
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> Yeah, you’re probably right. I should probably look into buying a mile’d out luxury car so people can perceive me as more manly.

:tup: i guess the little roadster is a much better way to flash the rolley.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/44 "2016-05-19T09:31:58Z")

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> [@Beck](#):
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> I was looking at Elise’s. I wouldn’t want to DD one in the summer.
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> No competitive driving whatsoever. I’ll probably never take the thing over 5,000 RPM.

The S2K is a pretty boring car if you’re not above 5k :lol:

I still think for what you’re trying to do Z4M is a better choice…If you were going to autox or be a street hero S2K might be a better choice.

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**Author:** ![drewster99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drewster99/32/5468_2.png) [@drewster99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drewster99)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/45 "2016-05-19T09:32:23Z")

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> [@Josh](#):
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> This depends on what it’s being used for. If you’re trying to do any competitive driving at all in it (track days, auto-x, etc) I’d get a super depreciated Elise as those have fallen into the low-mid $20k’s or the S2000. If you’re trying to just have a summer cruiser, fuck it, get the thing you want most because who cares about performance spec.

Not really, I’ve been looking hard for another one. A decent Elise is low-mid 30’s now, unless you’re looking at one with a rebuilt title. The prices are climbing.

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/46 "2016-05-19T09:53:11Z")

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> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> :tup: i guess the little roadster is a much better way to flash the rolley.

When I have two on each wrist, it’s hard to not flash them regardless of what I’m driving. \<3

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**Author:** ![Josh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/45deac/32.png) [@Josh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Josh)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/47 "2016-05-19T09:57:04Z")

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> [@Beck](#):
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> I was looking at Elise’s. I wouldn’t want to DD one in the summer.
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> No competitive driving whatsoever. I’ll probably never take the thing over 5,000 RPM.
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> I don’t really have a preference except that I can find an M roadster a lot easier than an S2000. (And I know enough about the S2000 to buy one. I don’t know a whole lot about anything BMW.)
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> Fixed for you. 😉

Yeah, screw it then if you aren’t trying to put the thing on a track. If you like the M roadster then neat, get that. I don’t love them because I don’t love the weight but I also haven’t driven one and the weight hardly matters as a DD so I really should put my money where my mouth is.

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> [@Beck](#):
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> When I have two on each wrist, it’s hard to not flash them regardless of what I’m driving. \<3

I thought I was cool wearing my one Rolly. Clearly, I’m doing it wrong.

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> [@drewster99](#):
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> Not really, I’ve been looking hard for another one. A decent Elise is low-mid 30’s now, unless you’re looking at one with a rebuilt title. The prices are climbing.

For sure, if you’re looking for a low miles non-tracked one. I don’t really care about miles or track time on an Elise because I’d point the shit out of the thing on a track. I have found a few clean title ones sub-$26k lately but they’re all quite high in miles.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/48 "2016-05-19T09:59:52Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Mazda owners :lol:

I haven’t owned that car in YEARS. Is that still my sig? I don’t have sigs turned on.

My toy has a push rod chevy V8, so technically I’m still one of the cool kids. But, it doesn’t have wheels, so maybe not.

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**Author:** ![Niquehawk5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Niquehawk5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Niquehawk5)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/49 "2016-05-19T10:59:19Z")

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> [@Wahoo](#):
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> If you get an s2000 youre license plate has to say 2soonjr

awesome

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> [@Beck](#):
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> No competitive driving whatsoever. I’ll probably never take the thing over 5,000 RPM.

Definitely Z4 if this is the case.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/50 "2016-05-19T11:02:24Z")

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If you’re honestly thinking about an S2k to never take above 5k get a Miata, and a vagina. 😉

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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/51 "2016-05-19T11:30:38Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> If you’re honestly thinking about an S2k to never take above 5k get a Miata, and a vagina. 😉

He’d be better off getting a Volkswagen, after all, he knows a guy who knows a guy.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/52 "2016-05-19T11:53:29Z")

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You won’t but if you were really concerned with reliability and resale C6 z06 🙂

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/53 "2016-05-19T11:55:23Z")

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How significant is the price difference between the two in similar condition?

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/54 "2016-05-19T12:17:53Z")

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> [@Beck"](#):
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> I’m probably only going to put 3,000 miles a year on the car (if that) so the small amount of time I am driving it, I don’t want it to be troublesome.

> [@Beck](#):
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> I’ll probably never take the thing over 5,000 RPM.

So which is the best car to not drive, and when driven not driven hard?

Why not just a regular Z4 then?

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/55 "2016-05-19T12:28:40Z")

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> [@POOPRA](#):
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> How significant is the price difference between the two in similar condition?

Within a thousand or so. I can find an 07 S2000 with 30k for $21-$23k - You can find an 07 M Roadster for the same amount but you’re looking at 50k miles.

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/56 "2016-05-19T12:32:57Z")

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No brainer then buy the M

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**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/57 "2016-05-19T13:08:04Z")

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For as much as I love and want an S2k, I think I support the M in this scenario.

GL

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**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/58 "2016-05-19T14:05:05Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> If you’re only driving it 3k a year, does reliability really matter?

> [@Beck](#):
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> Thats exactly the problem, lol.
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> I haven’t owned a car with more than 3,000 miles on it in 6 years lol

So then let’s be realistic. How long term is this car going to be? I can’t see how reliability should even come into the question given the frequency of it being driven and how hard it will be driven.

> [@JayS](#):
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> If you’re honestly thinking about an S2k to never take above 5k get a Miata, and a vagina. 😉

Can’t believe it took this long for someone to suggest a Miata :oj:

edit- Is the S2K coming back??

> **[Rumor: Honda to Celebrate Its 70th Anniversary with New S2000 Roadster](https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15347709/rumor-honda-to-celebrate-its-70th-anniversary-with-new-s2000-roadster/)**
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> Honda is said to be readying a new S2000 roadster in time for its 70th anniversary. Read more and see image at Car and Driver.

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**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/59 "2016-05-19T14:31:27Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> I haven’t owned that car in YEARS. Is that still my sig? I don’t have sigs turned on.

To your point; yes it still shows the Mazda and yes your sig is visible.

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**Author:** ![lorge1989](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lorge1989/32/6153_2.png) [@lorge1989](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lorge1989)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lets-talk-roadsters-specifically-z4m-roadsters/273938/60 "2016-05-19T16:21:28Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> You won’t but if you were really concerned with reliability and resale C6 z06 🙂

Well this is the answer because it is much faster than all other mentioned in this thread under 5K RPM.

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