# Lexus IS-F

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [October 27, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190 "2008-10-27T19:30:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trkbossls](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Trkbossls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Trkbossls)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/61 "2008-10-27T21:05:58Z")

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can u say BALLIN…it has an F on the end

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**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/62 "2008-10-27T21:07:58Z")

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Well, if you want a comfy DD why not look at something with a little less “boy-racer” styling and a little more panache then? Benz? Bimmer? OTHER Lexus models? I just don’t like the IS-F because its pretentious and TRIES to sell itself as sporty but falls short of that. I won’t deny it’s probably an engineering marvel like the stupid GT-aarrrrr but none of that electronic-wizardry-drives-the-car-for-you appeals to me. Give me sporty/pure/raw or give me comfortable, you can’t have your cake and eat it too!

Why not go check out a Volvo S60R or Audi A3 “S-line” or … I donno, any number of cars that fit “comfortable, reliable DD that can get out of its own way blah blah” - I realize you’re not looking for a GT3 or an M3 Lightweight and am not suggesting you et a “sports car” per-se but the IS would have to be SUPER SUPER inexpensive for me to recommend it to anyone …

> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> If it doesn’t need to be fast then why waste the money of the “F” part? Just snag an IS250/350

that’s pretty much what I’m trying to say …

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**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/63 "2008-10-27T21:11:17Z")

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> [@DrDoS](#):
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> wow i just realized that.  
> That is seriously some gay ass shit.

you seem to use…

gay

ass

shit

… a lot. something on your mind?

And while we’re on that topic, WTF is “gay” about mike and I driving a BUNCH of cars (not just our own / each others’) HARD at Dunnville, exactly? :meh:

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/64 "2008-10-27T21:12:08Z")

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Assumptions : you may still live at home.

You probably don’t make 45K a year, or if you do, right around there.

You can “give yourself a stupid cheap loan” but it still will be 6-7% at least.

Why are you going to screw yourself over with such a payment?

That being said - if you are around NYC, there are 2 dealers around here that I deal with that have IS-Fs and they don’t seem to be going anywhere, so I’m sure they will be a little more lenient with who gets to drive it.

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**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/65 "2008-10-27T21:16:07Z")

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On Topic:

I love my IS a lot - Not the best thing out there but its very smooth and I love to drive it.

IS-F is a pimp car - I just simply cant get over it being an automatic.  
But if you are just looking for a fast DD then id say go for it.

But if i were in your shoe’s I would get the new M3 - Or stick w/ your original idea with the C6 Vette.

There is a kid tough that works at Lexus who is a sales men, I would have to find his name. He use to be on ubrf back in the day.

I am sure he might be able to hook you up with a test drive.

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/66 "2008-10-27T21:17:12Z")

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Dos, you have a last gen IS right?

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**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/67 "2008-10-27T21:18:14Z")

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> [@Daddie](#):
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> Dos, you have a last gen IS right?

correct

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/68 "2008-10-27T21:21:27Z")

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> [@dmoffitt](#):
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> Well, if you want a comfy DD why not look at something with a little less “boy-racer” styling and a little more panache then? Benz? Bimmer? OTHER Lexus models? I just don’t like the IS-F because its pretentious and TRIES to sell itself as sporty but falls short of that. I won’t deny it’s probably an engineering marvel like the stupid GT-aarrrrr but none of that electronic-wizardry-drives-the-car-for-you appeals to me. Give me sporty/pure/raw or give me comfortable, you can’t have your cake and eat it too!
> 
> Why not go check out a Volvo S60R or Audi A3 “S-line” or … I donno, any number of cars that fit “comfortable, reliable DD that can get out of its own way blah blah” - I realize you’re not looking for a GT3 or an M3 Lightweight and am not suggesting you et a “sports car” per-se but the IS would have to be SUPER SUPER inexpensive for me to recommend it to anyone …
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> that’s pretty much what I’m trying to say …

maybe because this is a thread about what he wants, not what you want :gotme:

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/69 "2008-10-27T21:24:55Z")

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Oh, and by the way, if you start having side conversations in non OT threads, don’t cry to us when you get infractions.

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/70 "2008-10-27T22:52:55Z")

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> [@Daddie](#):
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> Assumptions : you may still live at home.
> 
> You probably don’t make 45K a year, or if you do, right around there.
> 
> You can “give yourself a stupid cheap loan” but it still will be 6-7% at least.
> 
> Why are you going to screw yourself over with such a payment?
> 
> That being said - if you are around NYC, there are 2 dealers around here that I deal with that have IS-Fs and they don’t seem to be going anywhere, so I’m sure they will be a little more lenient with who gets to drive it.

Thanks for the info about NYC. I’ll be in jersey later next month. I’m at home for another month or so, then its patio home time. It was supposed to be sooner, but a family situation arose and I’m stuck here for another month (or two). I’m making more than 45k a year, right now I’m sitting just under 60k for the year. Rates will be stupid cheap as in 2.9 or 3.9 depending on term and mileage. If its under 6,000 miles and was a corporate car or demo and never titled I can still get factory incentives. If not I can certify it and get TFS certified rates right around there. My payment will be ~$500+/-, keeping in mind I have a monthly demo allowance at work that will absorb $475 of that. Considering I’m dumping off two vehicles that were fully insured and ran/run me around $800/month…i’ll be fine with $500 + insurance. I hope 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mr.Twinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@Mr.Twinkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr.Twinkie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/71 "2008-10-27T22:54:03Z")

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There is 1 all black IS-F at NT Lexus right now that has been sitting in front on the grass this whole week.

It was the 1st time I have seen one in real life and the thing is freakin hot.

5.0L V8 8 speed auto 400hp if I recall?? Def a hot car IMO :tup:

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/72 "2008-10-27T23:03:07Z")

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> [@Mr.Twinkie](#):
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> There is 1 all black IS-F at NT Lexus right now that has been sitting in front on the grass this whole week.
> 
> It was the 1st time I have seen one in real life and the thing is freakin hot.
> 
> 5.0L V8 8 speed auto 400hp if I recall?? Def a hot car IMO :tup:

That’s the one I believe was a demo. I’ll check it out. They probably kept it under 6,000 miles so factory rates/incentives are still available. Atleast, I hope they did…

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**Author:** ![Mr.Twinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@Mr.Twinkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr.Twinkie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/73 "2008-10-27T23:08:53Z")

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No clue but its def been there this whole week and just today it was moved and now sits right in front of the store windows if I recall.

Im no Lexus fan, but that car is mad hot. I say go for it if you can lol

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/74 "2008-10-28T15:45:05Z")

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have you considered the V8 volvo S80?

doesn’t have quite as much power as the SF but is a lot cheaper.

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**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/75 "2008-10-28T15:47:58Z")

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> [@somedude](#):
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> have you considered the V8 volvo S80?
> 
> doesn’t have quite as much power as the SF but is a lot cheaper.

Probably much more of a big cruiser than hes looking for, nice car though

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/76 "2008-10-29T05:49:01Z")

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> [@Beck](#):
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> Thanks for the info about NYC. I’ll be in jersey later next month. I’m at home for another month or so, then its patio home time. It was supposed to be sooner, but a family situation arose and I’m stuck here for another month (or two). I’m making more than 45k a year, right now I’m sitting just under 60k for the year. Rates will be stupid cheap as in 2.9 or 3.9 depending on term and mileage. If its under 6,000 miles and was a corporate car or demo and never titled I can still get factory incentives. If not I can certify it and get TFS certified rates right around there. My payment will be ~$500+/-, keeping in mind I have a monthly demo allowance at work that will absorb $475 of that. Considering I’m dumping off two vehicles that were fully insured and ran/run me around $800/month…i’ll be fine with $500 + insurance. I hope 🙂

That doesn’t even make sense. Even at 2.9% for 72 months, a 45k loan would be over $750. Lets not even get in to how stupid financing a car for 5+ years is, or how stupid buying a $45k car when you “make” $60k/yr is.

Enjoy being upside down.

Finances ain’t shit.

That said, having never driven one… the F seems like it would make a good DD for someone that didn’t care about gas mileage. If you drove any appreciable number of miles, I think I’d opt for something else, it seems like there are plenty of other options that fit your criteria and the -F doesn’t seem to make a whole ton of sense. :shrug:

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/77 "2008-10-29T05:57:09Z")

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> [@MOBOOST4U](#):
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> I know someone who pretended to be somewhat of a serious buyer for a few weeks and got 2 test drives in one from Northtown… Im assuming if you talk to them composed and genuine enough, they will give you a test drive no problem.
> 
> As for finding an owner… there are only like 3 in the area so good luck.

i think i know exactly who your talking about!!!

and about the test drive if you didnt find one, i can see if i can get ahold of my cousin who is the sales manager at northtown and find out the word on that car.

sorry i didnt read the full thread!

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/78 "2008-10-29T07:19:10Z")

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> [@walter](#):
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> Lets not even get in to how stupid financing a car for 5+ years is
> 
> Enjoy being upside down.

IDK about that, maybe the “+” part, but i have done 60 months on every car i have ever owned, usually with very little down, and i have NEVER been upside down.

2004 STI, New, 60 months @ 4%, taxes down, sold after 2 years, w/ heavy damage, i was up $3000  
2006 STI, New, 60 months @ 4%, taxes+$2000 down, I think i can probably get 22-23000 for it, i owe 15,000  
2005 Elise, Used, 60 months @ 5.5%, $8000 down, Sold for $28k, owed $18…

Now if you finance something like a cobalt for anything more than 2 years, you’re probably upsidedown for life on that one.

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/79 "2008-10-29T07:31:57Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> IDK about that, maybe the “+” part, but i have done 60 months on every car i have ever owned, usually with very little down, and i have NEVER been upside down.
> 
> 2004 STI, New, 60 months @ 4%, taxes down, sold after 2 years, w/ heavy damage, i was up $3000  
> 2006 STI, New, 60 months @ 4%, taxes+$2000 down, I think i can probably get 22-23000 for it, i owe 15,000  
> 2005 Elise, Used, 60 months @ 5.5%, $8000 down, Sold for $28k, owed $18…
> 
> Now if you finance something like a cobalt for anything more than 2 years, you’re probably upside-down for life on that one.

Obviously financing a car over 5 years doesn’t automatically make you upside down, but in the vast majority of the cases it does, esp. when you are financing the majority of the purchase.

If you had a $40k car, and put $10k down, financed the rest at 4%, just because you can sell it for $20k when you owe $15k doesn’t mean you didn’t just get fuckticated by financing your car over 5 years.

Longer terms carry higher rates, longer terms incur higher financing costs. Everyone is free to do what they want with their money, it doesn’t make it any less stupid for someone making $60k/yr to finance a car worth their take home pay over 5 years which I suppose is the bigger point, less so the blanket statement about 5 yr loans.

who wants to get the tattoo “just because you can make the payment, doesn’t mean you can afford it”

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lexus-is-f/57190/80 "2008-10-29T07:34:49Z")

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> [@walter](#):
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> Obviously financing a car over 5 years doesn’t automatically make you upside down, but in the vast majority of the cases it does, esp. when you are financing the majority of the purchase.
> 
> If you had a $40k car, and put $10k down, financed the rest at 4%, just because you can sell it for $20k when you owe $15k doesn’t mean you didn’t just get fuckticated by financing your car over 5 years.
> 
> Longer terms carry higher rates, longer terms incur higher financing costs. Everyone is free to do what they want with their money, it doesn’t make it any less stupid for someone making $60k/yr to finance a car worth their take home pay over 5 years.
> 
> meh, from the facts in this thread, this is just yet another in a long string of stellar decisions.
> 
> who wants to get the tattoo “just because you can make the payment, doesn’t mean you can afford it”

I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying. In fact, whenever i look at my amort sched, it always makes me sick…

But the american economy runs on NOW.

or it did…

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