# LF S14 **URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lf-s14/131009 **Category:** Classifieds **Created:** [January 22, 2010, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lf-s14/131009 "2010-01-22T10:18:10Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 10
### Author: ![Feint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@Feint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Feint) #### Post date: [January 24, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lf-s14/131009/10 "2010-01-24T16:37:18Z")
> [@tired of excuses so heres my pay me thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tired-of-excuses-so-heres-my-pay-me-thread/25727/133): > > I don’t understand why people pay so > much more for a 1 year difference, kouki and zenki are the same shit - and there are koukis for less than 5000 in the US and the whole conversion here is like 1800- I have a kouki convert, I’m sure you have seen it before when I ran over to SG (red Super Advans on it). It had half the km’s of most kouki’s selling, more mods, and was a few grand cheaper. Still by no means anywhere near as cheap as an S13 to build. To the OP, be prepared to drop the cashola., that’s all I am saying. 7-8K for a kouki is the going price these days. Then you gotta 5 lug the slat, put on some man brakes, and by man brakes I mean some real rotors and pads. That’s like what, 1500-2000K in parts there + more for labour. Then you’re gonna have to run decent rims and rubber which is another 1500-2000k. Then if you want someone to swap an engine in you are looking at 5K basic. Another 2K for a front mount installed roughly, expect to drop 4-80" on a catback, 200 on a good boost gauge. DO NOT expect to pay less than 15g’s to play unless you buy a good base car like mine for example (which I will lose quite a bit on most likely). I am just letting you know this, speaking from experience. Double your budget and I will put you in one of the cleanest S24’s in Ontario lol. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lf-s14/131009)._