# LINUX: You're holding our kids back!
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [December 11, 2008, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578 "2008-12-11T14:00:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/41 "2008-12-11T23:14:08Z")
> [@BillysRevenge](#):
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> Linux sucks
Agreed. What a waste of 3 school credits.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/42 "2008-12-12T03:24:28Z")
> [@BillysRevenge](#):
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> The GUI, is almost identical…are you serious?
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> yum=windows update
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> ext3, similar to the windows file system NTFS
yum is not like windows update you fucking idiot…
yum lets you install/remove/update tons of software packages.
ext3 and NTFS are similar because they are both file system formats outside of that they are very different…
Basiclly everything ILC has said…
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### Author:  [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/43 "2008-12-12T05:19:27Z")
> [@ILC](#):
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> I don’t understand what is going on here…
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> Computers all comprise of the same few pieces… of course there is going to be similarities…
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> I don’t understand why you are saying that Linux (dear god there are so many distrobutions) are a direct rip off of windows.
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> Yum != windows update. Yum retrieves packages and installs them…
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> Windows update retrieves patches and applies them. it doesnt allow you to install other programs.
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> This is the main reason why I don’t post in huge nerd corner, because half of you are insanely retarded and feel you have a clue what you are talking about.
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> For myself this debate is far below something I actually would care to discuss.
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> NTFS and EXT3 are different… Look at how permissions are applied. BTW windows makes an attempt to emulate unix permissions but over complicates them.
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> I’m not even going to begin with this thread
x2
Not worth the stress to verbally abuse the few people who seem to know nothing.
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/44 "2008-12-12T05:22:00Z")
ahahahahahaha
NTFS = ext3
hahahahahahahaha
god, this thread really went to shit
Can we actually get back to discussing the article?
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/45 "2008-12-12T05:23:11Z")
Someone must have taken an intro to linux class at ITT and is now and expert…
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### Author:  [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/46 "2008-12-12T05:28:48Z")
> [@ILC](#):
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I used to use Linux in college. The closes I get these days is knoppix.
OT: did you know VHS copies of RAD sell for ~$40 on ebay?
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### Author:  [@vweegit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vweegit)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/47 "2008-12-12T06:34:03Z")
> [@BillysRevenge](#):
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> the picture…do you see the picture and how it has similarities to a windows GUI?
Ever notice how a Casio calculator can do things that a TI-85 can do? They clearly ripped off Texas Instruments!
:picard:
Back on topic, I can’t believe someone would write an email like that and mean it. People are clearly delusional in the whole “My operating system can beat up your operating system” debate.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/48 "2008-12-12T06:35:51Z")
Yeah, well, they all stole the graphical interface from Xerox! :jawdrop:
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### Author:  [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/49 "2008-12-12T06:44:03Z")
hyahaha back to the topic…
> This is a world where Windows runs on virtually every computer and putting on a carnival show for an operating system is not helping these children at all. **I am sure if you contacted Microsoft, they would be more than happy to supply you with copies of an older verison of Windows and that way, your computers would actually be of service to those receiving them…"**
THAT IS GOLD!
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### Author:  [@FearBefore128](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FearBefore128)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/50 "2008-12-12T07:14:25Z")
Wow…that’s kinda scary, don’t they like test these teachers before they just hand the kids off to them?
I have a iMac that is dual booting leopard and XP, I also have an old laptop with ubuntu installed on it. The only os I’ve had issues with is XP, the extent to which ubuntu and leopard trump XP is just staggering and idk how I used windows until I was 17
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### Author:  [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/51 "2008-12-12T07:18:02Z")
> [@FearBefore128](#):
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> Wow…that’s kinda scary, don’t they like test these teachers before they just hand the kids off to them?
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> I have a iMac that is dual booting leopard and XP, I also have an old laptop with ubuntu installed on it. The only os I’ve had issues with is XP, the extent to which ubuntu and leopard trump XP is just staggering and idk how I used windows until I was 17
you only have issues with windows XP because a) you didn’t do a good job to secure it, believe me there is a lot to do, to properly do so. and b) Windows has just a huge market trying to attack it.
I’m excited to see this market shift to Mac OS, and the hackers that come with it.
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### Author:  [@FearBefore128](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FearBefore128)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/52 "2008-12-12T07:25:23Z")
followed the instructions to the letter, not to mention had issues with XP on the every of I ever used, keep in mind no major issues, typical windows crap, but that’s the difference that makes unix based oses \> windows
Meh hackers didn’t really go to nuts the last time macs were popular back in the day of the eMac
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/53 "2008-12-12T07:29:10Z")
Home desktop security is :tif:
Everyones computers are NATed behind routers/firewalls you can’t get directly to them all the hacking now involves some user interaction clicking a link…downloading a file…
from system admin perspective…I feel a lot better about putting a Unix based server facing the internet with no firewall over a windows server…
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### Author:  [@CornyKorn21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CornyKorn21)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/54 "2008-12-12T07:34:58Z")
All operating systems suck… I’m not sure how using Linux makes any difference in how someone learns the ins and outs of a computer. I suppose it forces the user to learn but last time I checked (and my home desktop is running Vista) I have an above average idea of how a computer works.
I use Windows Vista, Fedora Core 9 and OS X pretty much interchangeably through out the day depending on if I’m at work/laptop/home/school. I find myself cursing way more at Linux and OS X than Vista.
BTW that article is hilarious: “No software is free and spreading that misconception is harmful.” :banghead:
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/55 "2008-12-12T07:36:39Z")
> [@CornyKorn21](#):
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> I use Windows Vista, Fedora Core 9 and OS X pretty much interchangeably through out the day depending on if I’m at work/laptop/home/school. I find myself cursing way more at Linux and OS X than Vista.
I guess this just depends on your skill level…
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### Author:  [@CornyKorn21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CornyKorn21)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/56 "2008-12-12T07:38:31Z")
> [@LZ](#):
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> I guess this just depends on your skill level…
Yeah I suppose… but I figure if I’ve been writing C code in Linux 4-8 hours a day for the past year and have owned mac laptops for the past 6 years I should be pretty good with them 😉
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/57 "2008-12-12T07:41:10Z")
I always find unrecoverable ways to break Windows…I some how manage to always un break linux ones…
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### Author:  [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/58 "2008-12-12T07:46:55Z")
> [@LZ](#):
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> I always find unrecoverable ways to break Windows…I some how manage to always un break linux ones…
> [@LZ](#):
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> I guess this just depends on your skill level…
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### Author:  [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2008, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/linux-youre-holding-our-kids-back/59578/59 "2008-12-12T07:49:35Z")
^ lol
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