# LOL@email from Howard at Redline... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [September 12, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461 "2010-09-12T12:20:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/21 "2010-09-12T12:49:04Z")
> [@What car to buy Daily Driver](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-car-to-buy-daily-driver/34968/9): > > it was an HTR 525 There was also a 600 up there > [@WTB: WoW Account](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-wow-account/34967/5): > > Nice edit! Just puttin a little extra info out there. > [@What car to buy Daily Driver](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-car-to-buy-daily-driver/34968/10): > > Same here, ive met him in person a few times and he was always great in person. But its hard to deny an email like that, serious douche bag move. There really isnt anything d-baggish about an email asking if you are a trouble starter for someones buisness imo… It would be no different if I said turbo travis did a shitty job on rays car, and he heard about my sayings, and PM’d me about it. (not that i think that or it happened lol) ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/22 "2010-09-12T12:51:47Z")
> [@997 GT3 RS in Orchard Park](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/997-gt3-rs-in-orchard-park/34972/20): > > There was also a 600 up there > > Just puttin a little extra info out there. > > There really isnt anything d-baggish about an email asking if you are a trouble starter for someones buisness imo… > > It would be no different if I said turbo travis did a shitty job on rays car, and he heard about my sayings, and PM’d me about it. (not that i think that or it happened lol) If Howard said those words to me in person, I’m sure he’d be coming off as an asshole at the same time. It just goes along with what everyone outside of his circle says that their experiences have been like with him. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/23 "2010-09-12T12:53:51Z")
Its all what ya really make it to be. The old saying “if you believe it to be true, it will be true in its consequences” kinda comes into play here. With an already negative stigma in place, an action that would otherwise be harmless, becomes much more. I just think that shit with Howard has gotten blown out of proportion by people that could barely pick him out of a crowd full of people. Just my .02 ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/24 "2010-09-12T12:54:57Z")
adam as ya know i love ya … when it comes to howard trust me man its all a front cause u have a car that could kill most of his in a race "1/4 mile that is " but if ya ever had a car he would touch ya would really see that the guy is a tool ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/25 "2010-09-12T12:56:03Z")
> [@Sanding/Cutting Fender Lip](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sanding-cutting-fender-lip/34583/18): > > Its all what ya really make it to be. The old saying “if you believe it to be true, it will be true in its consequences” kinda comes into play here. With an already negative stigma in place, an action that would otherwise be harmless, becomes much more. I just think that shit with Howard has gotten blown out of proportion by people that could barely pick him out of a crowd full of people. > > Just my .02 He gave me attitude the first (and only time) that I met him and before that in emails. Anyone that has met me IRL on here know’s that I’m very friendly and drama free, but I don’t take getting talked down to very well. ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/26 "2010-09-12T12:58:37Z")
i’ve talked to howard before (once at envy LOL) was a cool dude and remembered me even since i don’t have a vette LOL email was kinda mean but oh well 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/27 "2010-09-12T12:59:23Z")
> [@997 GT3 RS in Orchard Park](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/997-gt3-rs-in-orchard-park/34972/21): > > adam as ya know i love ya … when it comes to howard trust me man its all a front cause u have a car that could kill most of his in a race "1/4 mile that is " but if ya ever had a car he would touch ya would really see that the guy is a tool Haha, Idk about a slow 11 second car killing some of the cars he puts out, but maybe. Either way, like I said, Im just going from personal experience, and he hasnt wronged me, and until he does I cant and wont say anything bad about em. > [@:TDown: to Acura at 2:45 on the 33......](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tdown-to-acura-at-2-45-on-the-33/34971/8): > > He gave me attitude the first (and only time) that I met him and before that in emails. Anyone that has met me IRL on here know’s that I’m very friendly and drama free, but I don’t take getting talked down to very well. Understandable, first impressions are everything, but hes a busy dude, and maybe you caught him on an off day. Who knows ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/28 "2010-09-12T12:59:29Z")
> [@WTB: WoW Account](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-wow-account/34967/6): > > i’ve talked to howard before (once at envy LOL) was a cool dude and remembered me even since i don’t have a vette LOL > > email was kinda mean but oh well 🙂 I’ll be nice to a woman before I jam it in her ass…same deal. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/29 "2010-09-12T13:01:41Z")
> [@looking to possibly buy a house... (yet another thread)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-possibly-buy-a-house-yet-another-thread/34973/2): > > I’ll be nice to a woman before I jam it in her ass…same deal. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/30 "2010-09-12T13:10:39Z")
> [@Sanding/Cutting Fender Lip](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sanding-cutting-fender-lip/34583/18): > > Its all what ya really make it to be. The old saying “if you believe it to be true, it will be true in its consequences” kinda comes into play here. With an already negative stigma in place, an action that would otherwise be harmless, becomes much more. **I just think that shit with Howard has gotten blown out of proportion by people that could barely pick him out of a crowd full of people.** > > Just my .02 While I don’t know the whole ordeal that started all this crap with Redline/Howard(I’ve read as much on here amongst threads as I can stomach) this is a typical thing of any shop, my own included. One person posts something online and bam, shit hits the fan. Doesn’t make that shop owner a “bad person” or means their work is shit(or vice versa). It’s just and unfortunate part of being in business, especially THIS business. Context and emotion are difficult to convey across the internet, and far too often it’s taken the opposite direction originally intended and results in a shit storm on forums. On my own account, I’ve called Redline in the past a few times trying to setup some time and tuning with Howard and never received any callbacks. Shitty, yeah but no hard feelings were made. I just started calling other places/people to have the tuning completed. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/31 "2010-09-12T13:16:42Z")
I hear that guy boxersix is a dick, call him for advice or a little help and he tell you about how he has an awesome porche and skyline in his garage and doesnt need your shitty work… :rofl Adam, cant imagine you’ve had that many “bad apples” hell you’ve helped quite a few people out here, myself included, after only meeitng me once or twice. Not something a lot of people would do. ---
**Author:** ![DRock518](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drock518/32/6363_2.png) [@DRock518](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DRock518)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/32 "2010-09-12T13:25:33Z")
Ive met him b4 as well. Was very willing to talk to my buddy about anything he aked him and answer all the question that anybody had for him. Like Boxersix said one statement in the wrong hands can cause a bunch of drama with nothing to back it up IMO. Now the way he reponded to the email isnt the most becoming of a nice guy but maybe he ALSO got some wrong info about the Travis that was talking shit. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/33 "2010-09-12T13:25:54Z")
LOLLL I didnt expect anything less. I need to bring my car to Coppola to work some magic… ---
**Author:** ![slowgto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@slowgto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowgto)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/34 "2010-09-12T13:41:17Z")
Lol it took me a few to even wanna post up on here…its funny slomarro u will try n bash a business that’s obviously successful enough to have a nice clean building and good area to have motors open n not worry about dirt gettin in the motors yet ull.defend a little shot hole dump in mechanicville that’s dirtier then the albany dump as being a good shop…, Even funnier when all the haters of redline will talk so much crap about howard yet couldn’t pick him out in a line up of two people,…and remember all the bashing u all could ever do will never hinder howard one bit…he eats up all u haters…u make him popular ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/35 "2010-09-12T13:44:08Z")
> [@My kitchen remodel project 56k no way](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-kitchen-remodel-project-56k-no-way/34966/20): > > Lol it took me a few to even wanna post up on here…its funny slomarro u will try n bash a business that’s obviously successful enough to have a nice clean building and good area to have motors open n not worry about dirt gettin in the motors yet ull.defend a little shot hole dump in mechanicville that’s dirtier then the albany dump as being a good shop…, > > Even funnier when all the haters of redline will talk so much crap about howard yet couldn’t pick him out in a line up of two people,…and remember all the bashing u all could ever do will never hinder howard one bit…he eats up all u haters…u make him popular I gave him his attitude right back when we met, and I’d say these exact same things to him in person. Like I said, if he said what he said in his email, in person, I’m sure he’d be coming off as a cock. ---
**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/36 "2010-09-12T13:55:52Z")
:facepalm:facepalm:worship ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/37 "2010-09-12T14:15:55Z")
You can have the cleanest, most state of the art shop, and not know shit about shit when it comes to assembling a motor. Just saying. This isn’t the case im sure, just saying. I was with Pete when he met Howard down at Envy. He was a great dude IMO. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/38 "2010-09-12T14:35:47Z")
slowgto i stand behind who i have seen with my own eyes work . i ahve seen what joe can do and what howard can do . just cause ya have a baller shop dont mean ya can build shit . just because your on howards nuts dont mean shit to me just like me bein on joes meant dick to you . just chalk that up to one more thing ya think ya have me beat on . untill then have fun garglin howards dick ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/39 "2010-09-12T14:50:17Z")
Why the fuck was Howard at Envy. Doesn’t he have a wife? :rofl ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461/40 "2010-09-12T15:26:40Z")
Chuck, he was there with his wife IIRC. lolz [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lol-email-from-howard-at-redline/254461.md?page=3)