# Look at my new car!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 22, 2013, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445 "2013-08-22T09:11:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/41 "2013-08-22T18:11:47Z")
> [@EvoMR](#): > > 997 owners/ Top Gear viewing at my place? In! ---------- Post added at 09:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:09 PM ---------- > [@tpgsr](#): > > Do you guys compare the thinness of your gold chains at these meets? > > Yes, I am jealous. Never have children! Gold chains?!? These are Porsches not Ferraris! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/42 "2013-08-23T00:53:32Z")
In for the top gear meet, and too late on the never have children bit, 3 out of the 4 of us already have them. X… ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/43 "2013-08-23T06:35:38Z")
Hey do any of you other Porsche guys have the Durametric cable and software? I plan on buying it unless someone on here has it. ---
**Author:** ![cretinx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cretinx/32/6121_2.png) [@cretinx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cretinx)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/44 "2013-08-23T06:52:15Z")
really nice motors in those until they explode - I kid, but seriously, I just got my class action law suit paperwork as a 3 time M96 owner (i.e. - Porsche knew the M96 was a piece of shit but kept selling it from 1997 to 2008). PASM? ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/45 "2013-08-23T07:15:12Z")
Fucking vw’s ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/46 "2013-08-23T07:33:33Z")
> [@cretinx](#): > > really nice motors in those until they explode - I kid, but seriously, I just got my class action law suit paperwork as a 3 time M96 owner (i.e. - Porsche knew the M96 was a piece of shit but kept selling it from 1997 to 2008). > > PASM? PASM is standard equipment on the S. You exploded 3 motors? ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/47 "2013-08-23T08:24:02Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > ? I am not looking for sympathy but I am not sure what you are saying with those faces. Lol I’m an idiot. Bashing my head for believing that, playing the violin for the fail and face palming after all is done. No sympathy needed. lol ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/48 "2013-08-23T08:33:26Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > I was going to hire some new employees but I had to stay under a certain number to avoid Obamacare. Not hiring those people saved me a ton of money so I bought myself a car! > Thanks Obama! 😃 lol you should send that to him, and others in NYS, put it on chan 2 also ---
**Author:** ![piratemosh666](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/piratemosh666/32/6116_2.png) [@piratemosh666](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/piratemosh666)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/49 "2013-08-23T08:35:19Z")
Nice Beetle. ---
**Author:** ![cretinx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cretinx/32/6121_2.png) [@cretinx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cretinx)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/50 "2013-08-23T08:38:53Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > PASM is standard equipment on the S. > > You exploded 3 motors? No. I owned 3 P-cars with an M96. All owners of an M96 engine car received notification of the class action lawsuit against Porsche for the IMS failures - because Porsche knew but did nothing to fix it. Same with the air oil separators. That was neato when on-track my S blew a plume of smoke out the back large enough to blot out the sun and the info display said “SEE MECHANIC IMMEDIATELY”. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/51 "2013-08-23T08:45:08Z")
> [@cretinx](#): > > No. I owned 3 P-cars with an M96. All owners of an M96 engine car received notification of the class action lawsuit against Porsche for the IMS failures - because Porsche knew but did nothing to fix it. > > Same with the air oil separators. That was neato when on-track my S blew a plume of smoke out the back large enough to blot out the sun and the info display said “SEE MECHANIC IMMEDIATELY”. Most 997 cars have M97 engines, my 2005 does X… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/52 "2013-08-23T08:47:24Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > You exploded 3 motors? I hate to rain on your new car parade… but google “IMS bearing failure”. Keep in mind that obviously people who never had issues tend not to post online saying, “my car has been great” but the number of complete engine failures due to IMS failure is alarming to say the least. What’s especially concerning for you is the failures seem to happen more often on cars that are babied and rarely driven. If it was a case of it failing and leaving you stranded until you could swap it for the $650 LN upgrade it wouldn’t be a big deal, but when it fails it takes the whole engine with it. Ideally you swap it when you do the clutch since you’re 95% there in labor anyway, but then you’re rolling the dice on an 18-20k engine replacement. After doing tons of research on it the whole thing was enough for me to cancel my plans to trade the GTO in on a Boxster this spring unless I can get into an 09 or newer where they eliminated the IMS entirely. Again, sorry to bring this into your awesome new car thread. It really is an awesome car. But now that you have one that historically has been especially susceptible to this failure it’s something you’ll want to educate yourself on. If it was me and it was an earlier 05 where you can swap the bearing without splitting the case I’d have the LN Engineering IMS upgrade done just so I could enjoy the car without constantly listening to every little noise wondering if the motor was about to pop. EDIT Xander is right about it happening less on the revised IMS, but it definitely still happens too much. And the revised IMS is impossible to upgrade without splitting the case and incurring major costs. > **[IMS failure for your 997 car, Y or N? tell us (yr, 997.1, .2, m96, m97,...](https://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum/629870-ims-failure-for-your-997-car-y-or-n-tell-us-yr-997-1-2-m96-m97-failure-mode.html)** > > 997 Forum - IMS failure for your 997 car, Y or N? tell us (yr, 997.1, .2, m96, m97, failure mode) - Many have been asking to understand how many of the 997 cars have had IMS (intermediate shaft) failures. Although the people on this board are not... ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/53 "2013-08-23T08:55:41Z")
or you could just trade it in for a turbo ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/54 "2013-08-23T09:17:07Z")
Turbo motors don’t have this problem? ^^^^Oh, good to know. So I should look for a plume of smoke pretty soon? ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/55 "2013-08-23T09:20:47Z")
This is depressing. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/56 "2013-08-23T09:23:20Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I hate to rain on your new car parade… but google “IMS bearing failure”. Keep in mind that obviously people who never had issues tend not to post online saying, “my car has been great” but the number of complete engine failures due to IMS failure is alarming to say the least. What’s especially concerning for you is the failures seem to happen more often on cars that are babied and rarely driven. > > If it was a case of it failing and leaving you stranded until you could swap it for the $650 LN upgrade it wouldn’t be a big deal, but when it fails it takes the whole engine with it. Ideally you swap it when you do the clutch since you’re 95% there in labor anyway, but then you’re rolling the dice on an 18-20k engine replacement. After doing tons of research on it the whole thing was enough for me to cancel my plans to trade the GTO in on a Boxster this spring unless I can get into an 09 or newer where they eliminated the IMS entirely. > > Again, sorry to bring this into your awesome new car thread. It really is an awesome car. But now that you have one that historically has been especially susceptible to this failure it’s something you’ll want to educate yourself on. If it was me and it was an earlier 05 where you can swap the bearing without splitting the case I’d have the LN Engineering IMS upgrade done just so I could enjoy the car without constantly listening to every little noise wondering if the motor was about to pop. > > EDIT Xander is right about it happening less on the revised IMS, but it definitely still happens too much. And the revised IMS is impossible to upgrade without splitting the case and incurring major costs. > > [IMS failure for your 997 car, Y or N? tell us (yr, 997.1, .2, m96, m97, failure mode) - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums](http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-forum/629870-ims-failure-for-your-997-car-y-or-n-tell-us-yr-997-1-2-m96-m97-failure-mode.html) So the LN Engineering is different than the revised set up? Found it. [http://www.theimssolution.com/](http://www.theimssolution.com/) ---------- Post added at 12:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 PM ---------- [/COLOR] > [@thunderbunnycrisis](#): > > This is depressing. Tell me about it. lol ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/57 "2013-08-23T10:28:37Z")
I will buy it from you if you are unhappy with your purchase…1 Dollar…too much risk of kabooms :lol: ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/58 "2013-08-23T10:29:17Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > So the LN Engineering is different than the revised set up? Found it. [http://www.theimssolution.com/](http://www.theimssolution.com/) The IMS Solution is new since when I was looking into this (just came out spring of 13). Pretty cool how they’ve eliminated the IMS bearing completely. I’d want to hear some reviews with 20k+ miles before I tried one though. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/59 "2013-08-23T10:44:32Z")
JayS is pretty much trying to get you down to a good price on this. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445/60 "2013-08-23T10:59:34Z")
There is already a guy in Minnesota who will pay more than I did. 🙂 Of course I did just pay Erie county tax on it which makes the investment that much larger.:puker: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/look-at-my-new-car/232445.md?page=4)