# Looking for some honda help. Turbo or NA? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 11, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823 "2009-02-11T15:35:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sheepy26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sheepy26](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sheepy26)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/1 "2009-02-11T15:35:21Z")
I am looking to build my car a little. I just bought a clean DA that came from Vegas and its rust free and real nice…now the problem i got is that i want it to be my daily driver cuz i don’t have room for 2 cars. Now i don’t know if i should build an ls motor for turbo…just like the basics like forged rods and pistons and just everything with the turbo kit running on a good tune at like 10 or 12 pounds…or build a gsr motor with higher comp pistons cams and running it on a tune also. I just need to know what will be the most reliable and what will give me more bang for my buck and still last a good while for me. Thanks for any help ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/2 "2009-02-11T15:40:21Z")
NA if daily ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/3 "2009-02-11T16:42:57Z")
gsr motor with ctr slugs FTW ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/4 "2009-02-11T18:48:59Z")
anything tuned will last… pick a power goal and run with it! ---
**Author:** ![sheepy26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sheepy26](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sheepy26)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/5 "2009-02-11T20:00:35Z")
> [@New car](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-car/39584/2): > > gsr motor with ctr slugs FTW What exactly do you mean by slugs? I know some stuff but im not really that smart at motors yet > [@cars for sale](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-for-sale/39581/5): > > anything tuned will last… pick a power goal and run with it! Good point. Thats what i’ve heard from alotta ppl. I think im going to go with the gsr mildly built…kinda seems a bit more practical and more cost efficient. For my dd i don’t want too much power but shortly down the road i do plan on building something turboed with alot more power ---
**Author:** ![Bswaptcivic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@Bswaptcivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bswaptcivic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/6 "2009-02-11T20:14:47Z")
> [@sheepy26"](#): > > What exactly do you mean by slugs? I know some stuff but im not really that smart at motors yet > > Good point. Thats what i’ve heard from alotta ppl. I think im going to go with the gsr mildly built…kinda seems a bit more practical and more cost efficient. For my dd i don’t want too much power but shortly down the road i do plan on building something turboed with alot more power slugs=pistons…turbo on 10 lbs. hondas love boost, hell my coupe i traded my hatch for has been turbo’d for probably almost 2 years on a 140,000 mile single cam, and it was even tuned by damian nunnemaker :nono: but hopefully winter really is done so i can throw the wheels on and get it tuned by joe fisher so it will actually make some power ---
**Author:** ![sheepy26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sheepy26](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sheepy26)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/7 "2009-02-11T21:05:14Z")
well aren’t ctr pistons high compression? like i said, i might not know much about engines but i do know that for putting on a turbo that i would want low comp pistons and for more top end power i would want high comp pistons. So would ctr pistons be good for turbo? ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/8 "2009-02-12T06:49:21Z")
ctr = high compression = not turbo friendly. ---
**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/9 "2009-02-12T06:57:07Z")
the horse, it’s dead already. ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/10 "2009-02-12T09:59:00Z")
A N/A build may be more reliable, but in my opinion less fun to drive on a daily basis. It will be light years into the RPM’s until there is any usable power. Go with a boosted setup and enjoy the torque on the street. Do a turbo build with high quality parts and it should prove to be reliable. Its only going to be as reliable as you build it. I had 2 turbo hondas daily driven for about a year. Not to many issues. More or less general maintenance type of things. Stay away from cheap manifolds that crack and get a good fuel mgm’t setup. Don’t push the engine to its peak and you should get many trouble free years out of it. ---
**Author:** ![sheepy26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sheepy26](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sheepy26)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/11 "2009-02-12T13:55:28Z")
thanks for the help. Now with alot of help talking to nitroice40 i came to the conclusion that i am thinking of going with an ls bottom end…building it with a v-tec head. I will probably go with 9:1 forged pistons, forged rods, 450cc injectors, walbro fuel pump, and run it on a good tune and push like 10 pounds. ---
**Author:** ![boostedcoupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@boostedcoupe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boostedcoupe)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/12 "2009-02-12T15:54:45Z")
I drive a boosted car as my d.d i wouldnt go with a na built boost it ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/13 "2009-02-14T07:20:40Z")
You can make upto 400+ on a stock ls head. the big advantage with the vtec head it revs alot higher ( and flows better). So if the vtec head breaks your bank start with an ls. ---
**Author:** ![sheepy26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sheepy26](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sheepy26)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/14 "2009-02-14T19:00:08Z")
> [@Mad leet Drifto #1 for this winter anyone?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mad-leet-drifto-1-for-this-winter-anyone/39179/36): > > You can make upto 400+ on a stock ls head. the big advantage with the vtec head it revs alot higher ( and flows better). So if the vtec head breaks your bank start with an ls. Yeah i see that its going to be real expensive to build ls v-tec. I got 120k on my motor but i think im going to just finish buying what i need to complete my turbo kit…install it in the summer and run like 8 or 10 pounds on the stock motor. As im running that im going to try to complete my ls build with stock internals within a year or so. That way by summer of 2010 i know my motor will be good to go. I know the stock one should hold 8 lbs daily for about a year as long as i don’t beat it too bad. So hopefully the boosted stock motor will hold up for like 10k miles or so til i finish my other build ---
**Author:** ![I\_3myHONDA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/45deac/32.png) [@I\_3myHONDA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/I_3myHONDA)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/15 "2009-02-15T17:07:58Z")
> [@Motor Trend Test: New Sti](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motor-trend-test-new-sti/39580/15): > > Yeah i see that its going to be real expensive to build ls v-tec. I got 120k on my motor but i think im going to just finish buying what i need to complete my turbo kit…install it in the summer and run like 8 or 10 pounds on the stock motor. As im running that im going to try to complete my ls build with stock internals within a year or so. That way by summer of 2010 i know my motor will be good to go. I know the stock one should hold 8 lbs daily for about a year as long as i don’t beat it too bad. So hopefully the boosted stock motor will hold up for like 10k miles or so til i finish my other build For sure man…check out joe’s success w/ the non-vtec twin cam (fmfkid), he’s the ls-t prodigy. ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/16 "2009-02-15T18:57:44Z")
> [@I<3myHONDA;755134](#): > > For sure man…check out joe’s success w/ the non-vtec twin cam (fmfkid), he’s the ls-t prodigy. Thanks. I have been down the Stock LS turbo road a time or to haha. I would stick with like 250whp or less. Dont buy anything smaller then a 57trim turbo. ---
**Author:** ![sheepy26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sheepy26](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sheepy26)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/17 "2009-02-15T20:34:56Z")
> [@FS: 2003 Monte Carlo LS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2003-monte-carlo-ls/15243/12): > > Thanks. I have been down the Stock LS turbo road a time or to haha. I would stick with like 250whp or less. Dont buy anything smaller then a 57trim turbo. Yeah i wasn’t planning on more then 250whp. I got a 50 trim turbo already from a trade i took for a bunch of parts on a rusty shell i had, but i might move up to a 57 trim or something if it makes a big difference. You say you have turbo’d a stock ls motor? i checked out your build and thats a sweet car. and if you did turbo a stock ls, did you use it as a dd? ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/18 "2009-02-16T04:42:34Z")
> [@FS: NEW snowboard boots Kevin Jones sz 9](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-new-snowboard-boots-kevin-jones-sz-9/25377/11): > > Yeah i wasn’t planning on more then 250whp. I got a 50 trim turbo already from a trade i took for a bunch of parts on a rusty shell i had, but i might move up to a 57 trim or something if it makes a big difference. You say you have turbo’d a stock ls motor? i checked out your build and thats a sweet car. and if you did turbo a stock ls, did you use it as a dd? I did turbod 2 civics as my dailys. my first one made 262 went11.87 on bfg’s the next one made like 280ish went 11.88@120 on slicks. The key to the stock ls’s is to keep the RPMs below 7100.The biggest reason I was running threw the motors is 1. they where close to 200K motors and I was revving them to 7600 to prevent shifting to 5th in the 1/4. The turbo a Ran was a t3/60-1 It made full boost by like 5200. goodluck joe ---
**Author:** ![munster\_ek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/munster_ek/32/5977_2.png) [@munster\_ek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/munster_ek)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/19 "2009-02-16T06:32:51Z")
My buddy Boob dailies a LS-T at 260whp. He has over 50k on the setup, and it’s still strong. LS turbos are the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![sheepy26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sheepy26](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sheepy26)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823/20 "2009-02-16T15:21:55Z")
thanks to both of you for the help. I have heard from many friends that they are reliable but hearing it from ppl who have done it makes it even better to know. I will porbably do it still just wait a little. I plan on starting an engine build once i boost the stock one so i got a back-up in case anything goes wrong [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-some-honda-help-turbo-or-na/201823.md?page=2)