# Looking for someone who can time vanos **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [February 13, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888 "2011-02-13T16:38:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CJRando](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cjrando/32/6369_2.png) [@CJRando](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CJRando)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/21 "2011-02-18T11:02:50Z")
> [@How do you drive most of the time?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-drive-most-of-the-time/39760/29): > > When you unplug the sensor it goes into a default mode as now it can’t take a data a reading off anything. > > When you plug it back in, it gets one data from a sensor which doesn’t match the actual amount of air in the combustion cylinder causing a misfire. > > The amounts being wrong can be caused by injectors, plugs or unaccounted for air in the system. To me it seems like the latter. > > For what its worth. I found one vacuum leak in the hose that goes to the brake booster. I removed the OEM clamp and put a new on on. It still misses so I’ll check it again, for leaks, tomorrow morning. I put some cardboard under the car. It appears the slave cylinder is shot. The brake fluid is dripping off of the bottom of the transmission. Should the brake pressure be enough to pop the seal on it? ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/22 "2011-02-19T20:19:25Z")
You said that there was some cobbed up wirring on the 02s. Out of curiousity have you checked the wiring for the MAF sensor? A damaged wires causing a partial short would throw a MAF code also. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/23 "2011-02-19T20:56:26Z")
If you want to get anywhere, you need to find out the BMW code numbers. None of the internet BMW resources available to you speak Advance Auto Parts. [http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/techarticles/Mult-Code\_Reading/Mult-Code\_Reading.htm](http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/techarticles/Mult-Code_Reading/Mult-Code_Reading.htm) ---
**Author:** ![CJRando](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cjrando/32/6369_2.png) [@CJRando](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CJRando)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/24 "2011-02-19T21:43:25Z")
> [@A shuttle bus just crashed into Starbucks](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-shuttle-bus-just-crashed-into-starbucks/39797/19): > > You said that there was some cobbed up wirring on the 02s. Out of curiousity have you checked the wiring for the MAF sensor? A damaged wires causing a partial short would throw a MAF code also. The 02’s were cut and spliced. I replaced them with new ones. The MAF harness is still intact with the factory wire cover, so that should be ok. ---
**Author:** ![CJRando](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cjrando/32/6369_2.png) [@CJRando](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CJRando)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/25 "2011-02-19T21:50:22Z")
> [@I need comp help... INDESIGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-need-comp-help-indesign/39796/7): > > If you want to get anywhere, you need to find out the BMW code numbers. None of the internet BMW resources available to you speak Advance Auto Parts. > > [BMW E30/E36 Fuel Injection Fault Code Reading | 3-Series (1983-1999) | Pelican Parts DIY Maitenance Article](http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/techarticles/Mult-Code_Reading/Mult-Code_Reading.htm) Thanks for the link! I think I know what the issue may be. This part: ![http://www.4wheelsautoparts.com/images/bmw-parts/11611738629-OES.jpg](http://www.4wheelsautoparts.com/images/bmw-parts/11611738629-OES.jpg) One of the clips that holds it onto the manifold is broken. There’s a lot of extra stress on it with the added hoses to make it OBD2 compliant. It’s a $5 part, so I’m going to order that and a new slave cylinder tomorrow and hopefully this solves my problems. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/26 "2011-02-20T07:08:55Z")
That would just be a vac leak, is that all you have? Run the car and spray brake cleaner around it, if nothing changes, then its sealed up. ---
**Author:** ![CJRando](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cjrando/32/6369_2.png) [@CJRando](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CJRando)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/27 "2011-02-20T08:38:15Z")
> [@JClark"](#): > > That would just be a vac leak, is that all you have? Run the car and spray brake cleaner around it, if nothing changes, then its sealed up. I’ve tried that and I couldn’t notice any changes. I then switched to soapy water and was able to find one leak in the hose from the valve cover to the brake booster. It won’t hurt to try again before I tear it apart for a 15th time 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/28 "2011-02-20T08:48:47Z")
It’s not just a simple vac leak, you wouldn’t get jumpy misfire codes. The BMW fault codes dont have just “misfire cyl 4” like P0304, they have “ignition coil 4” or “fuel injector 4.” Even if those things aren’t the problem, it tells you where to start your research. Luckily, it’s one of the most heavily documented DIY cars on the planet, so it wont be hard to figure out once you have the right information. The Peake tool they use in the Pelican article is worth it if you plan to keep the car for awhile and, well because the car is haunted. Otherwise, slip a Keeler tech $20 for the codes and get his thoughts while you’re there. Edit: While we’re on the subject of heavily documented DIY car, a happy Presidents Day gift for BMW owners: [http://spaghetticoder.org/bmw/](http://spaghetticoder.org/bmw/) ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/29 "2011-02-20T09:16:34Z")
Love civics. Grab a paper clip and you’re good to go. Lol. Goodlick rando. Atleast it’ll be worth it in the spring. ---
**Author:** ![CJRando](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cjrando/32/6369_2.png) [@CJRando](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CJRando)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/30 "2011-02-20T09:46:27Z")
> [@Where were you in 1990?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-were-you-in-1990/39795/32): > > It’s not just a simple vac leak, you wouldn’t get jumpy misfire codes. The BMW fault codes dont have just “misfire cyl 4” like P0304, they have “ignition coil 4” or “fuel injector 4.” Even if those things aren’t the problem, it tells you where to start your research. Luckily, it’s one of the most heavily documented DIY cars on the planet, so it wont be hard to figure out once you have the right information. > > The Peake tool they use in the Pelican article is worth it if you plan to keep the car for awhile and, well because the car is haunted. Otherwise, slip a Keeler tech $20 for the codes and get his thoughts while you’re there. > > Edit: While we’re on the subject of heavily documented DIY car, a happy Presidents Day gift for BMW owners: [http://spaghetticoder.org/bmw/](http://spaghetticoder.org/bmw/) Thanks again for you advice and the link! I’ll take it to get the codes read with the proper tool so I have the _right_ information! > [@Blockbuster Online problems](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blockbuster-online-problems/39793/9): > > Love civics. Grab a paper clip and you’re good to go. Lol. Goodlick rando. Atleast it’ll be worth it in the spring. Thanks. I’ll need it with all the gremlins in this car. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/31 "2011-02-20T09:50:52Z")
In for results, curious now. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/32 "2011-02-20T10:09:31Z")
> [@FS: 2000 Mustang GT $4700 42K original miles](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2000-mustang-gt-4700-42k-original-miles/39704/52): > > In for results, curious now. Me too. Chris’s car is now the forum’s communal project. But we dont have to spend any money. ---
**Author:** ![CJRando](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cjrando/32/6369_2.png) [@CJRando](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CJRando)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/33 "2011-02-20T11:25:32Z")
> [@Home Owners: Insurance ?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-owners-insurance/39800/6): > > Me too. Chris’s car is now the forum’s communal project. But we dont have to spend any money. LOL…I’m goign to do what you guys said, get the codes properly read then diagnose the problem form there, before I waste more time and money tearing it apart again. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/34 "2011-02-21T06:17:59Z")
> [@Where were you in 1990?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-were-you-in-1990/39795/32): > > It’s not just a simple vac leak, you wouldn’t get jumpy misfire codes. The BMW fault codes dont have just “misfire cyl 4” like P0304, they have “ignition coil 4” or “fuel injector 4.” Even if those things aren’t the problem, it tells you where to start your research. Luckily, it’s one of the most heavily documented DIY cars on the planet, so it wont be hard to figure out once you have the right information. > > The Peake tool they use in the Pelican article is worth it if you plan to keep the car for awhile and, well because the car is haunted. Otherwise, slip a Keeler tech $20 for the codes and get his thoughts while you’re there. > > Edit: While we’re on the subject of heavily documented DIY car, a happy Presidents Day gift for BMW owners: [http://spaghetticoder.org/bmw/](http://spaghetticoder.org/bmw/) +rep thanks for the link!!! ---
**Author:** ![CJRando](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cjrando/32/6369_2.png) [@CJRando](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CJRando)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/35 "2011-02-23T08:54:52Z")
Does anyone have a Peake code reader I can borrow for a day? At this point the car shakes horribly, due to misfires, and I can’t drive it more than a mile due to the slave cylinder, so driving it to Latham/Albany area is no longer an option for me. I had a local shop look it it. They tried to tell me it’s my coils, which I know work fine. They also used the same autozone scan tool that I use, just an upgraded model. I know they have a peake reader, but wouldn’t use it in front of me. I even offered them a few bucks too 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/36 "2011-02-23T09:05:58Z")
Could it be a cam or crank sensor? ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/37 "2011-02-23T09:08:02Z")
Crank would cut spark and fuel. Cam would let it run but like shit. So would a major vac leak. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/38 "2011-02-23T10:52:53Z")
This happened right after the last head install right? Are you sure you plugged everything back together correctly? Wiring diagram to verify, see link I posted if needed. Prob going to have to buy the Peake and sell it for 90% of what you paid in a few months when its running right. So close to being finished… ---
**Author:** ![CJRando](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cjrando/32/6369_2.png) [@CJRando](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CJRando)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/39 "2011-02-23T12:16:07Z")
> [@Group b + Kart track= wow](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/group-b-kart-track-wow/39884/9): > > This happened right after the last head install right? Are you sure you plugged everything back together correctly? Wiring diagram to verify, see link I posted if needed. > > Prob going to have to buy the Peake and sell it for 90% of what you paid in a few months when its running right. So close to being finished… As far as I can tell everything is back together the way it was before. I even referenced pics I took before to make sure. I’ll probably end up buying the tool tomorrow. I’m going to put the S52 intake manifold back on it 1st. Then see how it runs. If it clears the misfires I’ll know it was with vacuum mess under the M50 intake. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888/40 "2011-02-23T12:34:53Z")
Unless your M50 manifold has a crack in it somewhere, that wont change anything. If it’s not changing when you cover it in brake cleaner, it’s not a vac leak in those areas. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-for-someone-who-can-time-vanos/256888.md?page=3)