# looking to patent an idea........ **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 13, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232 "2011-04-13T19:35:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/1 "2011-04-13T19:35:35Z")
ok so i furgue ill post this here, what steps are needed to be able to patent an idea. Iv been doing some reading but looking for some 1st hand experience. And a good attorney that deals with these things. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_Hulk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bad_hulk/32/5455_2.png) [@Bad\_Hulk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bad_Hulk)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/2 "2011-04-13T20:49:27Z")
You can’t patent an idea…you would have to manufacture the product and then patent the actual thing. A friend of my father’s has recently done it and it took a really long time and a lot of money from what I understand. You can copywrite an idea if I’m not mistaken but you need an actual object to patent. ---
**Author:** ![ItsOver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/itsover/32/5431_2.png) [@ItsOver](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ItsOver)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/3 "2011-04-14T03:09:21Z")
Are you by any chance making a remote controlled buttplug? I’ve been in the market for one. ;] ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/4 "2011-04-14T03:36:22Z")
is it a new and novel idea? ---
**Author:** ![JDMSIR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmsir/32/7376_2.png) [@JDMSIR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMSIR)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/5 "2011-04-14T04:09:36Z")
[Legalzoom.com](http://Legalzoom.com) or what ever it is. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/6 "2011-04-14T05:30:05Z")
You have searched the existing patents thoroughly right? ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/7 "2011-04-14T05:50:48Z")
Step 1) Tell me your idea. Step 2) We will discuss after we get past step 1. ---
**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/8 "2011-04-14T06:15:41Z")
You can patent ideas. A patent I did at work was just completed (after 2 years and who knows how many tens of thousands of dollars). We never wrote any code, tried it in our product. Its just an idea for how to do something. So you dont NEED a physical item to patent. Its pretty common to patent IP these days. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/9 "2011-04-14T06:26:04Z")
> [@juicedz4](#): > > You can patent ideas. A patent I did at work was just completed (after 2 years and who knows how many tens of thousands of dollars). We never wrote any code, tried it in our product. Its just an idea for how to do something. So you dont NEED a physical item to patent. > > Its pretty common to patent IP these days. > > Dan ^ Yup. Takes a lot of money and time to do this. Especially since the US patent office typically will deny you the first time you make a submission, so you have to go back and edit things to be more specific. They will not let you patent something that is really broad. ---
**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/10 "2011-04-14T07:16:52Z")
You better have at least $20k-$30k lying around. I know some damn fine patent lawyers and when some family members looked into patenting a product, we were told just to get out there and sell the shit out of it before China copies it regardless of a patent. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/11 "2011-04-14T07:47:32Z")
> [@juicedz4](#): > > You can patent ideas. A patent I did at work was just completed (after 2 years and who knows how many tens of thousands of dollars). We never wrote any code, tried it in our product. Its just an idea for how to do something. So you dont NEED a physical item to patent. > > Its pretty common to patent IP these days. > > Dan My bro works at an IP firm in around DC. It’s VERY big business and IP is VERY patentable. Just not cheap. I also like the comment ^^^ about China having no respect for a patents and copying anyhow. This is probably more common than even we might suspect. ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/12 "2011-04-14T07:59:47Z")
Like everyone has said… Unless it’s something in a controlled field (Software, Medical, Aerospace, Automotive), just sell it and get it to market before China copies it. Patents are not cheap; We’ve got an entire department at work who does nothing but patent paperwork and control. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/13 "2011-04-14T09:23:15Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > is it a new and novel idea? A. Novel B. Useful C. Non-obvious to a person of average skill in the trade At least that’s what the patent lawyer that visited one of my engineering classes taught us. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/14 "2011-04-14T09:43:40Z")
I just got out of a 150 minute group meeting with a multinational alliance partner… The next person that says patent, IP or synergy is getting pistol whipped. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/15 "2011-04-14T10:25:35Z")
Shenanigans? ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looking-to-patent-an-idea/211232/16 "2011-04-14T10:26:26Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Shenanigans? Beat me.