# Lossless or Lossy Compression music **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 28, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119 "2007-07-28T18:20:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/1 "2007-07-28T18:20:24Z")
If you had the option of a favorite CD would you choose: A Lossless format, like Flac or a Lossy compression version (MP3) For people that don’t know what this means. A Lossless format retains much of the music quality resulting in bitrate of about 800kb/s to 950kb/s. Where Lossy compression, would usually be around 192kb/s Of course FLAC would be much larger, and bitrate isn’t a completely accurate difference in showing quality, but a FLAC \>\>\>\>\>\>\> MP3 ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/2 "2007-07-28T18:22:27Z")
I’ve just recently been downloading cd’s in .flac format. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/3 "2007-07-28T18:24:32Z")
Personally, I’ve been doing it for a while but availability is low ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/4 "2007-07-28T18:35:59Z")
Yeah, I recently got on a private tracker about a month or 2 ago that has a good selection of lossless. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/5 "2007-07-28T18:59:14Z")
yea oink demonoid and what not all have a good selection… but 1 seeder… for the albums I want is kind of lame ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/6 "2007-07-28T19:34:10Z")
You still need to hook me up with that Oink invite haha. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/7 "2007-07-28T19:48:27Z")
no invites as of right now ☹ and its tough for me to get the power user and a shit load of invites, I’m on campus at UB and there is upload problems _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/8 "2007-07-29T02:16:57Z")
a high quality mp3 sounds exactly the same to me at 20% of the HD space/bandwidth. maybe i have an untrained ear but fuck that waste. Downloading a gig for 1 CD worth of music :picard: ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/9 "2007-07-29T02:25:27Z")
most of my shit is 320kbps…close enough if im sampling it, .flac or .wav/.aif. playing it out in the club…anything over 192kbps is acceptable. some rare shit i can only get in like 192 VBR (dancehall). ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/10 "2007-07-29T05:38:43Z")
pancake / bacon. don’t care. I can hear the difference fo sho, but I still dont care anymore. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/11 "2007-07-29T05:41:17Z")
mcell i can hook you up with an oink invite tomorrow ( monday ) if you PM me about it so i remember- anyways, i prefer .flac obviously, but it’s just a hassle considering the size is SO much greater than .mp3, and my only computer is my work laptop ( 70% of the hdd space is taken up with music, haha ) ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/12 "2007-07-29T05:44:30Z")
[quote=“sureshot!,post:11,topic:33119"”] but it’s just a hassle considering the size is SO much greater than .mp3 [/quote] thats pretty much what it boils down to. 90% of the time the music is only being played for background noise, and while I enjoy high quality data more - its just not worth it. Then again, alot of people are prolly rocking out the HQ files in their cars on OEM paper speakers too… :picard: Component set & effective tuning \> \* ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/13 "2007-07-29T07:58:36Z")
flac all the way tons out there, and well worth the download. Blows MP3 away ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/14 "2007-07-29T09:10:18Z")
[quote=“sureshot!,post:11,topic:33119"”] anyways, i prefer .flac obviously, but it’s just a hassle considering the size is SO much greater than .mp3, and my only computer is my work laptop ( 70% of the hdd space is taken up with music, haha ) [/quote] Size… so you are another one of those “I have ten thousand songs, look how big my dick is, yet I listen to maybe 5% of them” Quality over quantity for me ---
**Author:** ![sureshot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot/32/7578_2.png) [@sureshot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/15 "2007-07-29T09:32:06Z")
[quote=“ILCisDEAD,post:14,topic:33119"”] Size… so you are another one of those “I have ten thousand songs, look how big my dick is, yet I listen to maybe 5% of them” Quality over quantity for me [/quote] uh ok? i don’t know why you are being a fucking douchebag, but i’m pretty certain it’s unwarranted. a lot of people collect things, from stamps to coins to clothes to music to porno i could just as easily say: “hey aren’t you the loser that hosted hundreds of gigs of music/videos/apps on the various UB hubs? i bet you didn’t even use 5% of the shit you shared” :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/16 "2007-07-29T09:38:51Z")
I filled requests for people and shared a quarter ass ton of porno, where I watched each one of them and got my fair use out of them 🙂 It just seems ridiculous to have the entire discography of Dave Matthews Band, when you hate DMB… disclaimer: I used DMB as an example, and if you like DMB you are clearly gay ---
**Author:** ![dmoffitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dmoffitt/32/7455_2.png) [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/17 "2007-07-29T12:52:44Z")
Disk space is cheap. I don’t like compromising on quality vs disk or bandwidth… I have over 3400 songs (legally) ripped to Apple Lossless. no question what option I chose. And despite your arguements, I listen to all of them - I like albums, not “songs” - my gf and I were talking about that the other day, people seem so interested in mix disks / playlists, I for one could NEVER deal with something like an iPod Shuffle where it was just a smattering of my stuff, on random. I get in the mood to hear something and want to hear it… edit: and I keep 192mp3 versions of all of that on my laptop / to copy to my iPhone - cuz honestly while there IS a big difference on a good stereo / good headphones, when I travel I’d rather have ALL of it at lower quality than some, at excellent quality. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/18 "2007-07-29T14:01:15Z")
I can’t stand people that just get certain tracks, I get the whole album or I refuse to download it… I’m trying to find a great source for FLAC’s but so far its 1 seeder per torrent and my ratio is sucking, I’ll have to drive my way back into scene access ☹ Already dodged the FBI bullet with one .us site, I may just do it again _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![djdstar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djdstar/32/7617_2.png) [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/19 "2007-07-29T14:55:08Z")
most people can’t hear the difference between 192 and 320 and .wav believe it or not…studies done are quite hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119/20 "2007-07-29T15:14:09Z")
I use apple lossless for everything, cant find a way to make a ipod play flac… And itunes wont play it also, so its useless for me… I just rip them to apple lossless and im off… And although i have a strong hate for ‘mp3s’ much of my music is thus… ☹ Its soo freeking hard to find the shit i listen to in lossless without buying the cd and ripping it yourself, but you cant buy most of the cd’s anywhere besides the internet anyways… And thats pricey… [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lossless-or-lossy-compression-music/33119.md?page=2)