# Lotus CEO gets mad when asked about "fatter" cars **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 19, 2010, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238 "2010-11-19T07:33:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/1 "2010-11-19T07:33:37Z")
Corporate BS at it’s finest. Why not just admit it will make them more money? > Our plan was to have Lotus walk us around its new Elise and old Elise and show us where weight was added, and how much had been required by safety rules. It was a great opportunity for them to get a message out that Lotus fans have not been forgotten — and that complexity was being added out of necessity, not desire. This time around, Bahar walked out and gave us a tongue-lashing, and completely rejected our premise on face. We caught a snippet of on video: > **[Lotus Wants To Build Fatter Cars](https://jalopnik.com/lotus-wants-to-build-fatter-cars-5693756)** > > We wanted to hear from Lotus about why their new lineup appears to contradict Lotus tradition of lightweight sports cars. Instead, Lotus CEO Dany Bahar told us Lotus was making its cars fat because it wants to. > So, there’s your answer, Lotus fans. You heard it here. It’s not just regulations; Lotus believes cars have to get heavier because of the thinking that goes into them. That what happens when you spend less time building on Colin Chapman’s legacy and more time with the brothers Baldwin. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/2 "2010-11-19T07:35:04Z")
The new one looks a shitload better IMO ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/3 "2010-11-19T07:43:46Z")
it looks manlier, not really better imo ---
**Author:** ![ZOMGVTEK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zomgvtek/32/5063_2.png) [@ZOMGVTEK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZOMGVTEK)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/4 "2010-11-19T08:55:57Z")
The only thing that makes the old Elise good was the radical styling, and the fact it was stupid light… ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/5 "2010-11-19T10:29:41Z")
I wouldn’t say that’s the only thing… In any event, I’ve got some mixed views on this new regime…I think the cars look great, they certainly will have the power behind them, and I can only hope the handling traits, like all past Lotus cars, stays great…but added weight hurts performance…we’ll see… ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/6 "2010-11-19T11:03:25Z")
I really like what lotus is doing looks wise, even though the old model was still very nice. ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/7 "2010-11-19T15:54:27Z")
1900lbs 2400lbs who gives a fuck. Still a featherweight. Just give it more power ---
**Author:** ![ItsOver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/itsover/32/5431_2.png) [@ItsOver](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ItsOver)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/8 "2010-11-19T16:05:59Z")
I think those new wheels look like dick. ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/9 "2010-11-19T17:36:23Z")
Lotus seems to be taking cues from the gallardo ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/10 "2010-11-22T20:42:04Z")
Some awesome writing on this incident and info in the link below; > ``` > [quote]But with my journalist hat on I also have to say it wasn't right filming Dany Bahar in an interview situation without his knowledge and agreement – that's not justification or an explanation for his defensive response to your question – just a simple fact. > > ``` Are you fucking kidding me? The CEO of an automaker is handed off by a PR person to a journalist in public on their stand waiting for an interview during media days of an international auto show, asks what the question being asked is, acts like an asshole to them, at no point asks to go off the record — then expects to be granted some kind of carte blanche to say whatever he wants to say? Get real.[/quote] > **[Lotus Explains Its New-Found Love Of Fatties](https://jalopnik.com/lotus-explains-its-new-found-love-of-fatties-5694750)** > > Last week, Lotus CEO Dany Bahar explained how the Proton-owned automaker is increasing the size of its cars in a new, polarizing mass-market strategy. It was, as expected, met with contempt by Lotus fan-boys. Now, Lotus responds. ---
**Author:** ![Ciaran](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ciaran/32/5612_2.png) [@Ciaran](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ciaran)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lotus-ceo-gets-mad-when-asked-about-fatter-cars/206238/11 "2010-11-22T20:45:41Z")
he didnt really seem mad to me