# lovers and haters of Redline/Howard post here **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502 "2009-03-02T08:17:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/21 "2009-03-02T13:15:21Z")
why is that? ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/22 "2009-03-02T13:19:11Z")
> [@hi everybody](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hi-everybody/3086/40): > > why is that? thats how i roll. i wont go out of my way to do it, but luckily my sister lives right near redline and its by the highway, so its on my way ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/23 "2009-03-02T13:33:48Z")
> [@help with a scent...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-with-a-scent/14962/2): > > i cant wait to burnout past it this summer Yeah! That’ll show em! FWD!! WOO! ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/24 "2009-03-02T13:38:09Z")
> [@Remember that custom ferrari built for uber rich customer?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-custom-ferrari-built-for-uber-rich-customer/14947/23): > > Yeah! That’ll show em! FWD!! WOO! FWD? and im not trying to prove anything, otherwise id buy a BMW. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/25 "2009-03-02T13:39:42Z")
Yeah! ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/26 "2009-03-02T13:41:00Z")
> [@Remember that custom ferrari built for uber rich customer?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remember-that-custom-ferrari-built-for-uber-rich-customer/14947/23): > > Yeah! That’ll show em! FWD!! WOO! Literally just LOLd at work. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/27 "2009-03-02T14:50:42Z")
> [@GTi\>srt-4,SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-srt-4-ss/14141/115): > > I know howard personally, have talked with him a decent ammount, and hes a great guy to talk to. I have heard more than 1 horror story coming from the shop, but without it happening to me, i dont have 100% of the facts, so i cant give you a reasonable explantation for them. Ive seen more than a few nice cars come out, and also some turds. Its part of the buisness, if someone cheaps out on shit/beats the fuck outta their cars non stop, it will blow eventually. > > Personally if you want to stay close/keep cost down, try Howard out. If not, hit up Vette Doctors, they know their shit! redlines quote was $400 more then the 3 other quotes I got from such as [www.sickspeedperformance.com](http://www.sickspeedperformance.com) and [http://www.neweraperformanceparts.com/](http://www.neweraperformanceparts.com/) and another big time shop out in Mass. (forgot the name off the top of my head) ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/28 "2009-03-02T15:00:25Z")
its local business. support the locals!.. ---
**Author:** ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/29 "2009-03-02T15:57:53Z")
thats kinda what i was thinking, burn out past 1000 hp vettes in a vw, hahah OK!!! as for Howard, he is a wizard, extremely good at what he does, and even though most of the idiots on here dont wanna believe it, Howard WORKS WITH vette doctors!!! They were tuning together at corvettes of car. Headers are a pretty straight forward install, yours would be no different as its prolly the 120000000 vette he did headers on. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/30 "2009-03-02T16:06:49Z")
He wont be doing the burnouts in a VW. ---
**Author:** ![1evilzr1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1evilzr1/32/6384_2.png) [@1evilzr1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1evilzr1)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/31 "2009-03-02T16:08:08Z")
GOOD, a stock GTO isn’t gonna really prove anything either. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/32 "2009-03-02T16:39:44Z")
I think the driver plays a significant role in it as well… if you get your car dyno tuned in the middle of summer then go out in the winter when it’s 10 degrees out with the same tune and do a bunch of pulls then yeah, its going to eventually blow up. lol ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/33 "2009-03-02T17:58:05Z")
The past exhaust installs I have seen I would go with ECS ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/34 "2009-03-02T18:00:06Z")
i have talked to a lot of people the past few days about howard a im gonna be needin a tune for the marro soon ,i think he got his shit straight tune wise ,ill prolly give him a rip again when the car is ready ---
**Author:** ![QuickLT1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/eada6e/32.png) [@QuickLT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/QuickLT1)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/35 "2009-03-02T18:11:54Z")
idk, but last time i checked. He didnt tune LT1’s. Didnt have the software. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/36 "2009-03-02T18:12:24Z")
he did not long ago ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/37 "2009-03-02T18:16:29Z")
I dunno he tunes the cars way to rich which bugs me. You dont need that much fuel when you have an all motor set up. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/38 "2009-03-02T18:25:03Z")
> [@how do i break up with a psycho g/f????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-i-break-up-with-a-psycho-g-f/14958/53): > > And richies car also has a cobjob exhaust along with the headers, done by howard what kind of power did richies car end up making after it was tuned and shit? who tuned it? he’s got the Black WS6 right? ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/39 "2009-03-02T18:26:11Z")
He had it tuned before the cam and it made 340 some thing ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/40 "2009-03-02T18:27:15Z")
The only fact is this thread is that some people like Redline, and some people don’t. Like it or not Howard has more brain capacity than 95% of the people here, one of the smartest people I have ever met, seriously, as said before, he is a bit of a Wizard. No, this doesn’t make him the best tuner or the tuner for “you”. ALL these shop tuners know each other and share info… ummm, they have a forum too!!! Quality of tune isn’t the question, thats mastered by most of the shops mentioned for LSX’s by now. The question is who do you LIKE, TRUST and where do they fit within availability and COST. This is not a shout out… it’s just laying it open to understand. Richies was probably done by Slowhawk at DEZ Racing. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502.md?page=3)