# lovers and haters of Redline/Howard post here

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [March 2, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502 "2009-03-02T08:17:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lovers-and-haters-of-redline-howard-post-here/242502/11 "2009-03-02T11:22:09Z")

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> [@My noob post! 2.4T 1g neon here.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-noob-post-2-4t-1g-neon-here/14954/5):
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> A solid tune IS a SAFE tune IMO. I guess im not understanding your wording.

pig rich is a solid tune? I know a camaro that was dyno tuned there, pig rich, has a hard time idling. Its safe but would you call that a good tune? I think not, theres a difference between being on the safe side and cars running rich. No wi know its not everyone that goes through there gets the same tune but I have heard from customers and one of my friends that actually owns a car that had a cam installed and tuned by howard that he is not the greatest tuner. But since hes getting it tuned anyways why not go there, if the price is reasonable.

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