# lowering car via heating springs

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [October 21, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424 "2007-10-21T14:37:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/21 "2007-10-22T16:45:36Z")

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200 is overkill if you’re willing to consider heating the damn springs…

get megan racing, they’re a SHIT TON better than your springs will be after you heat them

call varun

[http://www.meganracing.com/products/product\_detail.asp?prodid=189&catid=47](http://www.meganracing.com/products/product_detail.asp?prodid=189&catid=47)

he can give you killer pricing

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**Author:** ![forrory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6de8d8/32.png) [@forrory](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/forrory)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/22 "2007-10-22T20:02:47Z")

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I didn’t even know you could do this, well I guess you learn something new everyday. However stupid it maybe.

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**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/23 "2007-10-22T22:23:31Z")

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dude i make enough money i dont care ill go buy them but why be like everyone else and have lowering springs and struts? why not try new things and be different? my whole car has been put together that way and it hasent failed me yet! i just wana try somthing new that no1 dose and see if it works. if not than ill go buy $200 springs. but i like to build my car not buy it. know what i mean? may sound stupid to you guys but thats how i like it.

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**Author:** ![Coop\_LE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coop_le/32/5534_2.png) [@Coop\_LE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coop_LE)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/24 "2007-10-22T22:53:24Z")

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What about your tranny in that mc dicks parking lot.?

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**Author:** ![KoukiS14](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/koukis14/32/5522_2.png) [@KoukiS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KoukiS14)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/25 "2007-10-23T07:21:27Z")

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> [@I have a hot date this weekend.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-a-hot-date-this-weekend/14591/2):
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> dude i make enough money i dont care ill go buy them but why be like everyone else and have lowering springs and struts? why not try new things and be different?

Ugh…

Why? Maybe its that thing called safety and standards. Maybe its knowing that your spring wont snap on you in the middle of a turn and your car wont pop a curb and take out a mother and her baby, maybe its because everyone uses springs manufactured by professionals (well at least most people do) because they know their car will actually ride better (god forbid handle better) than the stock oem springs.

You want to be different, paint a batman logo on your hood, cut your steering wheel and wear a cape everywhere you go but please for the sake of everyone else dont go hacking up your car’s mechanical bits in ways that just dont make any sense.

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**Author:** ![Wiltzor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@Wiltzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wiltzor)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/26 "2007-10-23T09:16:20Z")

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I’m rolling on heated and cut stock springs. They’re great! I just tell everyone I have coilovers and NO ONE second guesses me. That’s how good they are.

btw. my car handles like a race car, too. I say do it.

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**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/27 "2007-10-23T12:09:36Z")

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> [@FS: 96 Z28 50k miles, stroker, 10,000 firm.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-96-z28-50k-miles-stroker-10-000-firm/14593/2):
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> What about your tranny in that mc dicks parking lot.?

hahaha

…shut up matt.

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**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/28 "2007-10-23T12:10:09Z")

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> [@FS: V1 radar detector 1.8 POP enabled](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-v1-radar-detector-1-8-pop-enabled/14541/9):
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> I say do it.

im going to!  
what struts do you have?

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**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/29 "2007-10-23T12:11:53Z")

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> [@B16b rod Question](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b16b-rod-question/14595/3):
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> Ugh…
> 
> Why? Maybe its that thing called safety and standards. Maybe its knowing that your spring wont snap on you in the middle of a turn and your car wont pop a curb and take out a mother and her baby, maybe its because everyone uses springs manufactured by professionals (well at least most people do) because they know their car will actually ride better (god forbid handle better) than the stock oem springs.
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> You want to be different, paint a batman logo on your hood, cut your steering wheel and wear a cape everywhere you go but please for the sake of everyone else dont go hacking up your car’s mechanical bits in ways that just dont make any sense.

iv done it before on machines but never on cars thats why im asking they wont snap trust me. the springs are in good shape and heating them dosent do much strenth wise for them anywho.

if you never take risks and fuck up you never go anywhere

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**Author:** ![sidewayz240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sidewayz240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sidewayz240)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/30 "2007-10-23T14:52:44Z")

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So you want to do this to be original, because no one else does it?? I wonder why that is? Because its, retarded, unsafe and utterly stupid. People have been doing it for a LONG time, its nothing new but it hasnt caught on to anybody other then stupid ricers that didnt get and education past grade nine.

Why be like everone else and buy spring and struts?? are you serious?? The reason everyone has them is because they have been proven to WORK and work good, if they didnt why would people waste their money on them and not just go heat their springs for free? They dont just lower your car so it appears to look and handle better but they ACTUALLY make it handle better, How about that!!!

This is not taking a risk on your behalf, more-so on pedestrians and passeneger of your car.

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**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/31 "2007-10-23T16:42:36Z")

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> [@$4 a gallon here it comes....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-a-gallon-here-it-comes/14528/33):
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> This is not taking a risk on your behalf, more-so on pedestrians and passeneger of your car.

so dont get in my car or walk the streets?

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**Author:** ![sidewayz240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sidewayz240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sidewayz240)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/32 "2007-10-23T16:52:55Z")

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> [@$4 a gallon here it comes....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-a-gallon-here-it-comes/14528/36):
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> so dont get in my car or walk the streets?

I dont think you understood that sentence properly, because your reply has nothing to do with what I said.

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**Author:** ![JPE16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@JPE16](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JPE16)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/33 "2007-10-23T17:12:18Z")

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wow…

clearly you know nothing about how different metals work and react to heat.

if you heat your springs you’re going to change them…and i dont mean make them shorter. you’re going to actually change the molecular makeup of the spring. they’ll ride WAY stiffer, they’ll be 10 times more brittle (an inherently bad quality in a spring) and they wont have NEARLY the same rebound as before.

you know those cars you see going over bumps and look like they’re riding on cinder blocks? that’ll be you. except when you’re inside the car you’ll feel all the effects listed above. especially when you’re on the side of the road witha broken spring.

i’m not dishing out hear-say or guesses. This is what WILL happen. you’re car will ride like shit and handle even worse.

the entire purpose of lowering your car is to make it handle better…with heated springs it WILL handle worse than stock. And because of the new characterisitcs of the springs you are now putting your shocks through a much harder job of trying to control the crazy oscilations of your new springs. you’ll blow your shokcs sooner, be more likley to crash, and probably break something expensive on your car.

just buy springs. you say you have the money, so do it right instead of being a fag and coping out.

if you want to be different, then buy coil-overs and have your car corner weighted so it handles amazingly well…

btw i’m an engineer…so yes i know what i’m talking about.

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**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/34 "2007-10-23T19:06:43Z")

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> [@Thank god for A/C](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thank-god-for-a-c/14575/16):
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> they’ll ride WAY stiffer, they’ll be 10 times more brittle (an inherently bad quality in a spring) and they wont have NEARLY the same rebound as before.
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> if you want to be different, then buy coil-overs and have your car corner weighted so it handles amazingly well…
> 
> btw i’m an engineer…so yes i know what i’m talking about.

1. thats what im looking for shorter and stiffer is what i want.

2. you cant rock coils in the winter. i was going to buy them but theres no point in dishing out the money to use them for a month then putting stock back on… ill buy them in spring

3. my boss (the welder and fabricator of 45 years) is the one who told me i would have no problem doing it. he works with metal heating it and such for a living so i think he knows what hes talking about aswell.

to everyone posting this thread is dead. im going to do it and im going to do it safely so no1 will get hurt and if your worryed about me hitting you or any of your family members ect… then tell them and yourself to say inside 24/7 incase i pull a ‘car blows up and hits a truck and flips killing millions because of weak springs’

that is all.

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**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/35 "2007-10-23T19:09:19Z")

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> [@Thank god for A/C](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thank-god-for-a-c/14575/16):
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> btw i’m an engineer…so yes i know what i’m talking about.

ignoramus-maximus.

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**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/36 "2007-10-23T19:10:20Z")

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> [@DSM Reliability?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsm-reliability/14125/34):
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> ignoramus-maximus.

ahahaha that made my night.

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**Author:** ![JPE16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@JPE16](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JPE16)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/37 "2007-10-24T10:39:08Z")

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> [@DSM Reliability?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsm-reliability/14125/34):
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> ignoramus-maximus.

ok, please explain why i’m ignorant.

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**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/38 "2007-10-24T21:11:09Z")

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clearly you already know the answer to this because you are an engineer.

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**Author:** ![fastback240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fastback240/32/5591_2.png) [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/39 "2007-10-24T21:18:06Z")

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> [@2007= NO PLATES](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2007-no-plates/14505/71):
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> ok, please explain why i’m ignorant.

just for the record heating the spring dosent change the molecular makeup of the spring…

cooling it dose.

but im sure you already know all this right?

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**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/40 "2007-10-24T21:26:01Z")

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> [@Something for the AMD fanboys](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/something-for-the-amd-fanboys/14563/4):
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> Hey, I’ve done it before but it is a pretty long process especially if you’re doing all 4 springs. Cause first of all, you need a spring compressor to get all the springs off.
> 
> And then you’re going to need a pretty big vice (to compress) the springs… so you need one that can fit a really large spring. The rears are really long.
> 
> 1. Get one of those portable propane tanks with those brass nozzles ($10 at walmart)
> 
> 2. Remove all 4 springs from your car using a Spring Compressor (can be rented at Canadian tire or partsource…just need to give them a $100 deposit if I remember correctly)
> 
> 3. I’d recommend getting some welders gloves to handle the springs when they are REALLY hot.
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> 4. Start heating up each spring. Do it one at a time… It will probably take a good 6 minutes to get it really hot…
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> 5. Once the springs are glowing red, using the gloves obviously, grab it and then put it into the vice.
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> 6. Start compressoring the vice all the way untill the spring is fully compressed.
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> 7. Leave the spring compressed like that untill it fully cools down.
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> 8. Make sure the spring is cool and then you can reinstall it.
> 
> To be honest though. Doing this will only lower it by an inch an a half MAX… so I don’t know if all this work is worth it to you. If I were you, I’d just buy a new set of lowering springs. Saves a lot of time that’s for sure.
> 
> Good luck

Like I’ve posted… thats how you do it. If you don’t wanna do it. Buy some actual lowering springs.

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