# lowering car via heating springs
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive
**Created:** [October 21, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424 "2007-10-21T14:37:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/41 "2007-10-24T21:30:22Z")
> [@Coming to a street near you](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/coming-to-a-street-near-you/14458/27):
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> Like I’ve posted… thats how you do it. If you don’t wanna do it. Buy some actual lowering springs.
im guna do it about the same way but i have an oxi torch kicking around the shop that im guna use… no worrys
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### Author:  [@JPE16](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JPE16)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2007, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/42 "2007-10-24T22:58:00Z")
heating the spring changes the molecular structure of the metal…how you cool it dictates how that structure will remain…
but you already knew that didn’t you
but in a sense you are right, cold forging, chryo treatments etc… do change the molecular structure of metals…just in a different way.
and i only put my profession so you’d take me seriosuly and not do this. if you actually want the things you say you do, you’ll go buy a good setup…if you just want a lowered car that rides and handles like shit u’ll heat ur springs…simple
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### Author:  [@Pants](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pants)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/43 "2007-10-24T23:02:14Z")
my car is slammed and my exhaust is like 1 1/4 off the ground
i never scrape.
cutting or heating ur springs wll give u a bouncy ride.
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### Author:  [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/44 "2007-10-25T05:44:53Z")
> [@Thank god for A/C](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thank-god-for-a-c/14575/16):
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> wow…
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> clearly you know nothing about how different metals work and react to heat.
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> if you heat your springs you’re going to change them…and i dont mean make them shorter. you’re going to actually change the molecular makeup of the spring. they’ll ride WAY stiffer, they’ll be 10 times more brittle (an inherently bad quality in a spring) and they wont have NEARLY the same rebound as before.
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> you know those cars you see going over bumps and look like they’re riding on cinder blocks? that’ll be you. except when you’re inside the car you’ll feel all the effects listed above. especially when you’re on the side of the road witha broken spring.
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> i’m not dishing out hear-say or guesses. This is what WILL happen. you’re car will ride like shit and handle even worse.
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> the entire purpose of lowering your car is to make it handle better…with heated springs it WILL handle worse than stock. And because of the new characterisitcs of the springs you are now putting your shocks through a much harder job of trying to control the crazy oscilations of your new springs. you’ll blow your shokcs sooner, be more likley to crash, and probably break something expensive on your car.
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> just buy springs. you say you have the money, so do it right instead of being a fag and coping out.
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> if you want to be different, then buy coil-overs and have your car corner weighted so it handles amazingly well…
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> btw i’m an engineer…so yes i know what i’m talking about.
LOL, engineer or engineering STUDENT?
I’m gonna go with student, and not a very good one at that either, because you learn the difference between annealing and quenching in first year. Or atleast I did 😉
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### Author:  [@Hurricane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hurricane)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/45 "2007-10-25T06:34:05Z")
1. my boss (the welder and fabricator of 45 years) is the one who told me i would have no problem doing it. he works with metal heating it and such for a living so i think he knows what hes talking about aswell.
Your boss wouldn’t happen to be mexican would he?
Regardless if you ride on heated springs you are a retard, I just hope you get pulled over and the car gets impounded before you hurt someone.
Idiot.
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### Author:  [@SpHiNxXx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SpHiNxXx)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/46 "2007-10-25T08:10:41Z")
> [@PARTING OUT: 91 integra](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parting-out-91-integra/14584/5):
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> Your boss wouldn’t happen to be mexican would he?
first off … i resent that! 😛
and second heating springs = FAIL
seriously why would you?? even I, a total NEWB wouldnt even consider heating or cutting my springs!
i found a set (4) Skunk2 lowering springs on ebay $120 BNIB!!
Dont be so CHEAP!!!
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### Author:  [@JPE16](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JPE16)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/47 "2007-10-25T09:49:31Z")
for these purposes i didnt want to get into all that…just wanted this tool to know that heating ur springs to lower your car = in no way a good idea.
and i was at the top of my class at conestoga and was recently accepted to guelph for next year to get my iron ring.
why do all engineers drive toyotas?
but secretly love 240s? gluttins for punishment? lol
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### Author:  [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/48 "2007-10-25T09:53:20Z")
Heh, good luck, don’t forget to party hard when you finally get it. By about 8pm on Iron Ring day, I was so drunk I was denied entry to most drinking establishments 😃
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### Author:  [@JPE16](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JPE16)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/49 "2007-10-25T11:55:46Z")
hahaha…that was me when i got my certificate from college…god knows what things’ll be like when i’m finally a P.Eng…lol
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### Author:  [@zeeshan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zeeshan)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/50 "2007-10-25T13:13:08Z")
AISI 9255 steel is hardened then tempered to bring it to the right ductility, strength
so after you heat it and plastically deform it, just reharden it and temper it and you will be ok
but chances are you wont be able to afford both of those processes 🙂
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### Author:  [@JPE16](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JPE16)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/51 "2007-10-25T14:12:30Z")
you also said you didnt want to drive a lowered car in the winter…so how are you going to get your car back to stcok height? buy another set of springs and spend more time installingthem when it snows?
seriosuly man…there’s soooooooooo many beter ways of doing what you’re thinking of doing…pls listen to us!
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### Author:  [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/52 "2007-10-25T15:17:05Z")
> [@FS: 2 in 1 Table and chair](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2-in-1-table-and-chair/14448/12):
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> for these purposes i didnt want to get into all that…just wanted this tool to know that heating ur springs to lower your car = in no way a good idea.
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> and i was at the top of my class at conestoga and was recently accepted to guelph for next year to get my iron ring.
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> why do all engineers drive toyotas?
> but secretly love 240s? gluttins for punishment? lol
yeah my boss also has 8 years engineering. big deal
if its in no way a good idea why do a whole bunch of ppl do it? like on overhaulin for example. its not as good as lowering springs but its not a bad idea. and if heating it changes it than how is it formed? i would have thought metal had to be heated at some point for it to be made into things such as springs. but you know i could be wrong.
also i said i did not want to drive on COILOVERS for the winter. do you know what would happen to coilovers if you winterdrove them? i thought i said i only wanted the loweringsprings for the winter and come summer i would buy coils.
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### Author:  [@JPE16](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JPE16)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/53 "2007-10-25T16:02:42Z")
my bad…i didnt go back and read the thread i was just going from memory…and yes most manufacturing processes for coil springs do introduce heat to the metal…but like i said…ur changingan existing property.
everytime you heat themetal it’s going to change from it’s previous state. it’s a cumulative effect.
anyway…if it were me i’d grab some used springs or something…but my car is already lowered and im not you.
so quit arguing your point with me and do it alreay if your so confident it’s a good idea.
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### Author:  [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/54 "2007-10-25T20:30:51Z")
i will dont worry.
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### Author:  [@SpHiNxXx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SpHiNxXx)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/55 "2007-10-25T20:41:16Z")
tsk tsk tsk
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### Author:  [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/56 "2007-10-25T20:46:26Z")
> [@My Brakes, Pooped the Bed.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-brakes-pooped-the-bed/14647/10):
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> yeah my boss also has 8 years engineering. big deal
If your boss is an engineer with 8 years of experience like you say he is, then why the hell does he work in a shop? He should have his PEng, and be ballin off the wallin somewhere making mad $ not getting his hands dirty. Clearly, he’s either NOT an engineer, or is really bad at it.
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### Author:  [@Mr\_X](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_X)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/57 "2007-10-25T21:07:31Z")
Cut off two coils. Then get them heated at a shop with an oxy/acetylene torch and make the cut coil flat and put them back in.
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### Author:  [@Mr\_X](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_X)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2007, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/58 "2007-10-25T21:08:34Z")
> [@Solarian"](#):
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> If your boss is an engineer with 8 years of experience like you say he is, then why the hell does he work in a shop? He should have his PEng, and be ballin off the wallin somewhere making mad $ not getting his hands dirty. Clearly, he’s either NOT an engineer, or is really bad at it.
Man, the more I read your posts the dumber I get.
You’re so annoying.
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### Author:  [@fastback240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fastback240)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2007, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/59 "2007-10-26T05:02:03Z")
> [@Solarian"](#):
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> If your boss is an engineer with 8 years of experience like you say he is, then why the hell does he work in a shop? He should have his PEng, and be ballin off the wallin somewhere making mad $ not getting his hands dirty. Clearly, he’s either NOT an engineer, or is really bad at it.
that or what realy happend, he dident like doing paperwork all day and cramed in an office so he started up a comp. to do what he loved and not what payed well.
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### Author:  [@CrypticNissan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CrypticNissan)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-car-via-heating-springs/110424/60 "2007-11-04T10:47:34Z")
DO IT MANG!!! i shall call you guinie pig number #3
just respnd with your opinion on how it affects riding, steering, accel, braking.
live and learn… its all you can do… i always get bitched at for talking out support braces and what not’s… drilling out holes in the body behind the fenders… all cause im to cheap to by carbon fibre to save my weight… they will never know unless you tell them eh;)
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