# lowering on stock shocks

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**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [July 15, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-on-stock-shocks/198538 "2008-07-15T06:16:04Z")
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### Author: ![Dave\_dgn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@Dave\_dgn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dave_dgn)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2008, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lowering-on-stock-shocks/198538/12 "2008-07-17T10:18:32Z")

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> [@Results from NYI 10/14](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/results-from-nyi-10-14/36975/87):
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> Your toe adjustment will have a far greater effect on your tires than camber. ON your Civic, static camber will increase as you go down, but toe will go out. Toe causes “scrubbing” or “strafing” of the tread blocks which leads to drastically reduced tire life. Technically negative camper is essential for maximal tire grip, but only negative enough to make the best use of the slip angle of the tires you are on. For mileage concerns on expensive tires, setting toe will be KEY.
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> 1.5" will net you roughly -1 degree of static camber, which is pretty low (I run -2.2 degree for reference). If you set your front to to zero with one negative degree of camber your tires will do just fine. Same with the rear, you’ll gain almost -2 degrees, which can be eliminated by two 1mm washers placed behind the upper compensator arm. The washer trick will bring you back to less than a quarter of a degree static camber, and the toe will need adjusted to somewhere in the neighborhood of 1/16 of a an inch toe OUT, for rotational purposes and compressional allowance.
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> As for springs on stock shocks, regardless of rate it’s not a question of WILL the blow, it WHEN they’re gonna shit the bed. The springs you have are guarranteed to have a higher RATE than your stockers which does two things; creates an underdampening situation which wears out the shocks super fast, reduces total travel, (full droop to bumpstop compression). Basically you’ll have a poor handling, unresponsive, on-the=verge of blowing suspension. If you don’t know the spring rates that you are about to use, IMO don’t use them…wait until you can put something on correctly that you can trust.

Everything he said.

Also, chances are your shocks are blown or damn near it anyways on a 93 civic.

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