# LQ9 into E39

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**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [August 12, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230 "2012-08-12T14:35:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/821 "2015-04-20T11:29:32Z")

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Bummer man…

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/822 "2015-04-20T11:42:16Z")

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someone find me a cheap 6.0 locally!

I would love turbo ls1 ss’s cammed 5.7 but i already have a cam and i am poor.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/823 "2015-04-28T10:22:13Z")

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autopsy continues. wife wants to see what happened and helps.

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7656/16608929233_8be7a375a6_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7656/16608929233_8be7a375a6_b.jpg)

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7642/16606693664_bb0bc6722d_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7642/16606693664_bb0bc6722d_b.jpg)

 ![https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5347/17203186726_dacf2b4530_b.jpg](https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5347/17203186726_dacf2b4530_b.jpg)

ok, something to keep us busy while I wait for parts to come in. I found a set of flat-top Corvette LS2 pistons and rods, which will give me a nice bump in compression (i was running the factory “truck” dished pistons before)

some pictures I had on my camera before the motor died. Life was so good!

Finished my exhaust sometime in March and threw some VHT flameproof on it.

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7647/17082906548_be7503b0b6_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7647/17082906548_be7503b0b6_b.jpg)

few items came in from ECS

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7585/17084466109_8c4d8d77a2_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7585/17084466109_8c4d8d77a2_b.jpg)

the old coolant bottle didn’t look great

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7710/17270137861_a518712e90_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7710/17270137861_a518712e90_b.jpg)

30 seconds later, voila

 ![https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8710/16648195894_1df976edb6_b.jpg](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8710/16648195894_1df976edb6_b.jpg)

New kidney grills to replace old slightly cracked parts

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7662/16650424533_d8b0fe9f07_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7662/16650424533_d8b0fe9f07_b.jpg)

I had a few extra minutes so I moved my hose reel in the garage to a more convenient spot. My wife kept banging into it with her car door and would have continued to do so until ALL the paint was removed from the door, so a change was in order.

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7647/17268847432_eb9ce94a86_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7647/17268847432_eb9ce94a86_b.jpg)

tidied up the garage, washed the car

 ![https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8794/17083087680_fed6ba5b53_b.jpg](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8794/17083087680_fed6ba5b53_b.jpg)

his and hers

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7722/17270618415_e609dfce19_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7722/17270618415_e609dfce19_b.jpg)  
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back to reality, some pictures of the motor pull

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7652/17270574485_5f92f71078_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7652/17270574485_5f92f71078_b.jpg)

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 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7652/17270574485_5f92f71078_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7652/17270574485_5f92f71078_b.jpg)

 ![https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8790/17244597436_5cd499d6f0_b.jpg](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8790/17244597436_5cd499d6f0_b.jpg)  
After 90 minutes we were here  
[![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7640/16648115284_2eeddd921c_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7640/16648115284_2eeddd921c_b.jpg)

Day 2 after work

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7685/17270552195_4d12cc16f7_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7685/17270552195_4d12cc16f7_b.jpg)

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7608/17082777748_49c7249aa4_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7608/17082777748_49c7249aa4_b.jpg)

now the autopsy

LH head, [URL=http://www.nyspeed.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=5]#5]([https://flic.kr/p/rn8WEq](https://flic.kr/p/rn8WEq)) . Valve put huge gouges in the combustion chamber. Luckily, these heads are readily available (and cheap!) so replacement will be easy.

 ![https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8783/16650316183_6e8602d8be_b.jpg](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8783/16650316183_6e8602d8be_b.jpg)

luckily the timing chain was in one piece, so I was confident no other valvetrain was damaged (sure enough when I pulled the other head off, everything was great)

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7715/17063121257_4bfed05b91_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7715/17063121257_4bfed05b91_b.jpg)

the windage tray was not so lucky

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7659/16648079264_d1fd763f3f_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7659/16648079264_d1fd763f3f_b.jpg)

and for the grand finale…not one broken rod, but 2!

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7660/17270518525_632d910778_b.jpg](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7660/17270518525_632d910778_b.jpg)

When the first rod broke, a piece of something must have gotten into the path of the rod next door rod, and knocked him out too.

Took a break from the motor work to bring home a new toy

Technician117 finally sees the light and brings over some GM power

 ![https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8693/16650867833_0c8fbbb39e_b.jpg](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8693/16650867833_0c8fbbb39e_b.jpg)

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Mockup - still need to decide final placement and plan new pads for the posts

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/824 "2015-04-28T10:28:07Z")

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Kick Ass

Cant wait to see this all complete.

Thanks for buying the neighborhood a lift…I was getting sick of jacks and stands…

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**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/825 "2015-04-28T10:30:54Z")

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Gotta ask… how are those motor mounts that everyone was dogging you on holding up?

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/826 "2015-04-28T10:37:28Z")

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Which brings us to this past weekend. Was cleaning up the garage a bit on Sunday morning, on a whim decided to hop on the local Craigslist and do the usual search for “6.0”. Lo and behold there was one locally for cheap, with a “slight knock”, For my purposes, perfect! It came with some nice parts that will help recoup some costs. Loaded her up and had it home before noon. Not much info on the motor other than that it “came out of a steak truck” (LOL) and had aluminum 317 heads (so, it was at least a 2001+).

Yanked the intake and heads and checked bores, they looked great for unknown mileage.

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7714/17276446096_da0a954248_b.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/c/ac95cfffdd1ee01c91a8cb6d345d618c6ee55b1b.jpeg)  
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Removed the remaining 15 valve springs at my super fancy cylinder head service bench. Wine and cheese come standard

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Awaiting these LS2 full floating rods/pistons, should be here tomorrow - can’t say no to more compression while I’m in there!

 ![https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7670/17095076767_e99364d2be_b.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/6/0/603445bf3e1f849f93c2f119b48142fc4dcb0596.jpeg)

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Tonight I’m borrowing a friend’s engine crank to finally put the new motor on the stand. I had my old man drop off the power washer last night (and fixed a broken switch on it), so as soon as it’s completely torn down, I will drag the block over to the neighbor’s front yard and start cleaning it up.

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> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> Kick Ass
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> Cant wait to see this all complete.
> 
> Thanks for buying the neighborhood a lift…I was getting sick of jacks and stands…

I accept all major credit cards and beverages that come in a glass bottle

> [@maxwell](#):
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> Gotta ask… how are those motor mounts that everyone was dogging you on holding up?

One side was almost completely cracked through due to fatigue.

Just kidding, other than some surface rust, they are in perfect shape

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/827 "2015-04-28T10:44:20Z")

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lol, good.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/828 "2015-04-28T10:45:28Z")

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But PBR is better in a can…

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/829 "2015-04-28T10:58:12Z")

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Dual valve springs this time bro

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/830 "2015-04-28T10:59:20Z")

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Looking good

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/831 "2015-04-28T11:48:49Z")

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> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> But PBR is better in a can…

I need to stop and get some today. Running dangerously low on beer. I think I am in the single digits.

> [@LZ](#):
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> Dual valve springs this time bro

Texas Speed is sending me a new set of .650 duals with titanium retainers, seats, and seals for free

> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> Looking good

I can’t hear you over all the freedom in your garage

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/832 "2015-04-28T12:02:16Z")

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![http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/beer_level_icon_cards-r4440867e250a494db2afbf9b47df3f0c_xvuak_8byvr_324.jpg](http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/beer_level_icon_cards-r4440867e250a494db2afbf9b47df3f0c_xvuak_8byvr_324.jpg)

☹

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/833 "2015-05-21T07:12:57Z")

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so, a quick non pictorial update. I decided to go with some new pistons rather than reusing the LS2 stuff - and since the oversize units cost the same as the regular 4.00" bore, I decided to have the cylinders bored .030" over for a 370 build.  
So here’s the rundown on the new motor  
2002 LQ4 Iron 6.0 pulled from “steak” truck - craigslist yeehaw special.  
Stock crank, .010 undersize mains  
Sealed Power Speed-Pro flat top pistons (4.030" Bore)  
Stock gen 3 rods, LS6 rod bolts  
New Clevite P rod bearings, cam bearings, main bearings, etc  
GTO oil pan, pickup tube, windage tray  
Sticking with the same cam, TSP 228R (228/228, .588/.588 @ 112\*)

Top end:  
317 heads milled .024” for 66cc chambers  
No porting, stock otherwise  
GM 6.0 MLS headgaskets  
ARP headbolts  
TSP pushrods, dual springs, titanium retainers

Intake:  
Stock LS6 intake manifold  
LS6 throttle body  
3" pipe with stock LQ4 MAF, cone filter  
Stock LS6 fuel rail, with 42# Ford Greentop injectors

Exhaust:  
CTSV cast iron manifolds with the cats removed, into OEM BMW exhaust with 2 secondary cats.  
3" QTP Cutout/exhaust dump before all mufflers/ resonators

Motor is at the machine shop now, I will be doing the top end assembly myself. Still need to tie up a few loose ends before it’s ready for the car, like this:

[![https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8826/17745189988_84c290e0d9_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8826/17745189988_84c290e0d9_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/t35JKw)[IMG\_20150513\_204411\_971](https://flic.kr/p/t35JKw) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

[![https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5322/17906638026_f7ae65a82a_b.jpg](https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5322/17906638026_f7ae65a82a_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/thmcCo)[IMG\_20150513\_205149\_820](https://flic.kr/p/thmcCo) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/834 "2015-05-21T07:37:05Z")

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What machine shop did you go with?

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/835 "2015-05-21T08:07:38Z")

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always enjoy this thread :tup:

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/836 "2015-05-22T06:24:52Z")

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@LZ1 I took the bottom end to Paul at J&L. He’s OCD but I’m ok with that. He’s been more than helpful so far. Heads are at Klispie’s, I used them in 2012 when I skimmed the first set and was happy with it

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/837 "2015-06-04T05:24:31Z")

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quick update - between the day job and working on the car I am pulling some 16+ hour days here (and will be for the next week)

the good news is that things are moving right along with no issues (aside from misplacing my tube of RTV and spending 45 mins looking for it).

Tuesday 6pm, motor picked up from builder. Bottom end (crank, pistons, rods) assembled, otherwise a totally bare block  
[![https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8868/18266504129_4580eb7bce_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8868/18266504129_4580eb7bce_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/tQ9Bhn)[IMG\_20150602\_170056\_314](https://flic.kr/p/tQ9Bhn) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

Tuesday 11pm  
Block cleaned, masked, painted, all block coolant and oil plugs installed, oil tray on, cleaned and prepped oil pan/windage tray/pickup tube/oil pipes. Head dowels in. Crank and cam sensors in, along with valley cover and knock sensors. Had to call it quits as I was waiting on the oil barbell plug and a new timing chain. I love Summit Racing  
[![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/500/18264971100_7b8dfb8e4f_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/500/18264971100_7b8dfb8e4f_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/tQ1KyQ)[IMG\_20150602\_220307\_082](https://flic.kr/p/tQ1KyQ) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

Wednesday 11pm  
New timing chain installed and motor timed (LOL), cam bolts loctited and torqued. Oil pump installed, oil pickup tube inspected and installed (don’t screw up that o-ring!) Rear cover and main seal installed, balancer pulled on to align front cover and main seal, both covers aligned and torqued. Oil pan and accessories installed, sealed and torqued, alignment checked. Deck surface cleaned, headgaskets and heads installed and ARP bolts torqued in sequence to spec. Wrapped up the night by installing and torquing 8 new spark plugs.  
[![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/434/17831936243_1e486d9491_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/434/17831936243_1e486d9491_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/taKkoB)[IMG\_20150603\_221917\_087](https://flic.kr/p/taKkoB) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

I am taking a ton of pictures with my other camera for documentation’s sake but don’t have time to make my usual very long winded post so those will have to wait until a few weeks from now

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/838 "2015-06-04T05:29:12Z")

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Hurry so we can cruise and hang out at car shows in lawn chairs like old men!

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/839 "2015-06-04T07:11:10Z")

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Looking good Norb. Have enough spare parts to build me a 5.3 for the mustang?

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/840 "2015-06-04T07:45:03Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Hurry so we can cruise and hang out at car shows in lawn chairs like old men!

chair is already in the car (not joking)

> [@llink78](#):
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> Looking good Norb. Have enough spare parts to build me a 5.3 for the mustang?

Actually I do…i have a ton of junk in the basement

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