# LQ9 into E39

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [August 12, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230 "2012-08-12T14:35:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 45

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/881 "2015-09-01T13:17:27Z")

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Having owned something GM with this drivetrain and now something refined by ze Germans but with less power makes me love this car that much more.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/882 "2015-09-01T13:19:19Z")

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That diagram is amazing :lol:

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/883 "2015-09-01T15:53:06Z")

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i know. i did not draw it though!

someone buy it, i will put up the ad probably next week

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/884 "2015-10-20T09:03:27Z")

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> [@Norb O](#):
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> i know. i did not draw it though!
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> someone buy it, i will put up the ad probably next week

now officially for sale:  
[http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?283858-FS-2001-BMW-quot-560i-quot-Sport-LSx-T56-swap](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?283858-FS-2001-BMW-quot-560i-quot-Sport-LSx-T56-swap)

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/885 "2015-10-20T09:39:29Z")

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i really like that shift knob you have in this…

who makes it?

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/886 "2015-10-20T10:22:16Z")

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buy the car and you can have it!

I found it on ebay. Ironically the Camaros take a metric thread and the older Corvettes are SAE thread. Not sure about C6 and newer

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> **[WHITE OL' SKOOL SHIFT KNOB FOR 6 SPEED SHORT THROW SHIFTER SELECTOR UN2 KIT |...](http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHITE-OL-SKOOL-SHIFT-KNOB-FOR-6-SPEED-SHORT-THROW-SHIFTER-SELECTOR-UN2-KIT-/200856200426?fits=Model%3ACamaro&hash=item2ec3f664ea:g:AF4AAOxy79JSYbdx&vxp=mtr)**
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> Taking cues from automotive nostalgia, the "Ol' Skool" Series features a shift pattern etched into the surface of the knob. While keeping the pattern from rubbing off, the engraved design also adds that classic feel to any ride. | eBay!

or you can be a real baller

> **[WHITE/BLACK FING FAST SHIFT KNOB FOR 6 SPEED SHORT THROW SHIFTER 16X1.5 K22 |...](http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHITE-BLACK-FING-FAST-SHIFT-KNOB-FOR-6-SPEED-SHORT-THROW-SHIFTER-16X1-5-K22-/190939997153?fits=Model%3ACamaro&hash=item2c74e923e1:g:SlEAAOxygLxSZsRd&vxp=mtr)**
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> Thread pitch is 16X1.5 for the above listed vehicles. While keeping the pattern from rubbing off, the engraved design also adds that classic feel to any ride. These billiard-ball quality shift knobs are designed to be the HIGHEST QUALITY shift knobs...

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/887 "2015-10-20T12:08:52Z")

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if it had A/C id consider it

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/888 "2015-10-23T05:26:06Z")

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I apologize to all for taking so long to get engine bay pictures, but I wanted to give it a good cleaning first. Here we go:

[![https://farm1.staticflickr.com/657/22207777450_91a8709b7c_b.jpg](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/657/22207777450_91a8709b7c_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/zQqEwE)[\_DSC4473](https://flic.kr/p/zQqEwE) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

[![https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5819/21774704713_9c1a27ab4f_b.jpg](https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5819/21774704713_9c1a27ab4f_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/zba46k)[\_DSC4472](https://flic.kr/p/zba46k) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

[![https://farm1.staticflickr.com/644/22382601642_1b701e86a8_b.jpg](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/644/22382601642_1b701e86a8_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/A6SFES)[\_DSC4474](https://flic.kr/p/A6SFES) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

[![https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/22382576142_4cdbb4ac55_b.jpg](https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/22382576142_4cdbb4ac55_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/A6Sy6d)[\_DSC4475](https://flic.kr/p/A6Sy6d) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

[![https://farm1.staticflickr.com/675/22406493081_41208c45b7_b.jpg](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/675/22406493081_41208c45b7_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/A8Z8Le)[\_DSC4477](https://flic.kr/p/A8Z8Le) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

My favorite feature:  
[![https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5758/22207955578_0f56e1bef3_b.jpg](https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5758/22207955578_0f56e1bef3_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/zQrztQ)[\_DSC4480](https://flic.kr/p/zQrztQ) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

Power is estimated at 380whp/380 ft lbs.

It can easily be bumped up 50+whp with some better heads and less restrictive exhaust.

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/889 "2015-10-28T05:22:26Z")

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price drop, now 17,000

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/890 "2015-11-02T05:26:46Z")

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Local dyno day yesterday, had some nice results

388whp/377tq

I am getting the itch to swap heads or boost it…

[![https://farm1.staticflickr.com/660/22521783020_e0bf9bf24f_b.jpg](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/660/22521783020_e0bf9bf24f_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/Ajb2rN)[Dyno 560i](https://flic.kr/p/Ajb2rN) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/891 "2015-11-02T10:55:49Z")

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put a small 150 shot on it with a progressive controller, or do some LSA heads and a LSA blower…

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/892 "2015-11-10T09:40:55Z")

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potential buyer fell through. up to top

16,000 OBO

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/893 "2015-11-18T08:13:02Z")

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So the LS7 clutch and flywheel combo is in and working out well. The old Diamond Stage 2 Clutch and 18lb flywheel worked great for me but always took a bit of effort to drive very smoothly. While I was under there I also added a copper washer under the detent ball plug (AKA Anti-Venom mod) to reduce shifting effort a touch. The combination of the above has worked well to make driveability much smoother. My only gripe is that the LS7 clutch engages right off the floor but I am told that it will self adjust as I put on the miles - only have about 45 miles on it so far.

Side note - I really have to stop taking pictures with a potato

The new lift made it SO much easier to get that big trans out. I am able to comfortable roll around underneath on a stool.

[![https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5783/23104651352_28c4d96693_b.jpg](https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5783/23104651352_28c4d96693_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/BcFnTN)[image](https://flic.kr/p/BcFnTN) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

[![https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5751/23104661642_1fc59ff99b_b.jpg](https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5751/23104661642_1fc59ff99b_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/BcFqXd)[image](https://flic.kr/p/BcFqXd) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

[![https://farm1.staticflickr.com/696/22700183708_ed3843663d_b.jpg](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/696/22700183708_ed3843663d_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/AzWnKJ)[image](https://flic.kr/p/AzWnKJ) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

LS7 clutch in all its boring OEM glory - you can have your cake and eat it too  
[![https://farm1.staticflickr.com/770/23092519606_389c78b2f2_b.jpg](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/770/23092519606_389c78b2f2_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/BbBcxL)[image](https://flic.kr/p/BbBcxL) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

[![https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5801/22726313039_f764df2dd6_b.jpg](https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5801/22726313039_f764df2dd6_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/ACfi6r)[image](https://flic.kr/p/ACfi6r) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/894 "2015-11-18T08:25:47Z")

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I did the LS7 clutch upgrade on my GTO when the slave cyl failed and coated my clutch and PP in fluid. At the time I wasn’t sure what I was going to do with the car so I figured while I was in there why not upgrade it a little. Drove just like stock.

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**Author:** ![mark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@mark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mark)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/895 "2015-11-18T08:42:29Z")

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funny you mention that detent mod. ever since I went with a short shifter it has that notch I don’t like and just found about this antivenom mod the other day  
do you remember the size you used? many of the people I have read that did this used two washers. but its more about the thickness space than the number of washers.  
I think this is an awesome car/build.

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**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/896 "2015-11-18T09:05:34Z")

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The LS7 clutch is what i should of put in my Trans Am WS6. With my gto thats the clutch i would go with as well most likely when the time comes.

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> funny you mention that detent mod. ever since I went with a short shifter it has that notch I don’t like and just found about this antivenom mod the other day  
> do you remember the size you used? many of the people I have read that did this used two washers. but its more about the thickness space than the number of washers.  
> I think this is an awesome car/build.

I havent read much about the anti venom mod, but ive read it makes it easier for the tranny to fall out of gear? I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/897 "2015-11-18T09:32:12Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> I did the LS7 clutch upgrade on my GTO when the slave cyl failed and coated my clutch and PP in fluid. At the time I wasn’t sure what I was going to do with the car so I figured while I was in there why not upgrade it a little. Drove just like stock.

It’s engaging pretty close to the floor right now but I need to bleed it some more. It’s a nice piece.

> [@mark](#):
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> funny you mention that detent mod. ever since I went with a short shifter it has that notch I don’t like and just found about this antivenom mod the other day  
> do you remember the size you used? many of the people I have read that did this used two washers. but its more about the thickness space than the number of washers.  
> I think this is an awesome car/build.

The Corvette guys swear by it. My MGW shifter has awesome precision but it was fairly high effort which felt out of place in a luxury car.

[http://www.toquez06.com/avm.html](http://www.toquez06.com/avm.html)

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> The LS7 clutch is what i should of put in my Trans Am WS6. With my gto thats the clutch i would go with as well most likely when the time comes.
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> I havent read much about the anti venom mod, but ive read it makes it easier for the tranny to fall out of gear? I could be wrong.

No problems here so far

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/898 "2015-11-18T09:50:22Z")

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MGW shifter is awesome :tup:

LS7 clutch ftw mine is still holding 700+rwhp

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**Author:** ![mark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@mark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mark)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/899 "2015-11-18T10:02:32Z")

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the detent is much more noticeable when changing from a stock shifter/lever to anything aftermarket.  
physics, levers… the short shifters notice the detent ‘notches’ more since it takes more hand power to pull it out of gear with a short shifter. the detent is spring loaded per the physics of the stock shifter.

im having a hard time explaining it right…

but taking a little tension off the detent notch, or spacing out that detent bolt will have less effect on a short shifter, or a lighter shift assembly but it could potentially have falling out of gear stuff if you have all the stock shifter crap.

im running a billet pro, with a LSS. my monster IV was slipping in high gears so I went with a mantic 9000 twin. huge improvement over the monster.

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/900 "2015-11-30T07:29:18Z")

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**Took a deposit on the car last night, sale pending. If it falls through (doubtful) I will let everyone know.**

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