# LQ9 into E39

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**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [August 12, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230 "2012-08-12T14:35:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/81 "2012-10-15T05:43:56Z")

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Been busy with little bullshit. Working on friends cars, etc. My biggest hurdle is having a 2nd car right now, so that I can pull the motor from the BMW. I have my eye on a nice automatic ‘98 Legacy Outback Limited with heated leather. I have been spoiled by the creature comforts of the E39.

LS6 Yellow valve springs came in. Need to put these on the heads.

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8332/8090016271_f20b64a5dd_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8332/8090016271_f20b64a5dd_c.jpg)

Sold my winter wheels to a guy in Rochester, was a nice relaxing drive.

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8330/8090015739_dd1afa1dd6_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8330/8090015739_dd1afa1dd6_c.jpg)

Put my fiancee’s cat in the oven, she was a fan of that.

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8472/8090015291_2fcdd696b1_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8472/8090015291_2fcdd696b1_c.jpg)

So back to the automotive portion of things…

My friend let me test fit his Style 65s. super wide and lots of rubbing.

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8467/8090016938_06cdb29aef_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8467/8090016938_06cdb29aef_c.jpg)

Made good use out of the old stock LQ4 Van cam.

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8191/8090014459_cd7e479092_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8191/8090014459_cd7e479092_c.jpg)

Beginning to clean up the block better. After some wirewheeling.

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8463/8090025788_d5375e7331_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8463/8090025788_d5375e7331_c.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/82 "2012-10-21T13:42:43Z")

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next important step: buy a winter vehicle so the BMW can come off the road!

![http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/431736_10100789069650048_864390332_n.jpg](http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/431736_10100789069650048_864390332_n.jpg)

2000 Subaru Outback 109K miles  
2.5 Boxer 4-cyl, 5 speed, AWD  
Power and heated cloth seats, heated mirrors, heated windshield  
some nearly new Dunlop snow tires on it

taking the BMW off the road and registering the Suby this weekend.

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**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/83 "2012-10-21T14:31:59Z")

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Nice build, I’ll be watching this very closely!

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/84 "2012-10-21T17:30:45Z")

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if anyone local is interested in the M62 and 6 speed, come by and take a look before I pull it out of the car.

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/85 "2012-10-26T06:12:41Z")

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So, my fiancée was at her class last night for 4-5 hours and I had some time to get in the garage.

Made my own valve spring compressor tool with some crap I had laying around. How it’s supposed to look:

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8469/8124677438_a286791be4_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8469/8124677438_a286791be4_c.jpg)

Not pretty but worked like a charm. How mine looked:

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8475/8124658817_c4241f7ac0_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8475/8124658817_c4241f7ac0_c.jpg)

The valves started to come out with the aid of the beer of the evening. Pardon the grinding flakes on the bottle from me making the tool

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8473/8124659467_f0c1e6cc63_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8473/8124659467_f0c1e6cc63_c.jpg)

Then the tenant in the lower apartment stopped by and offered me some whiskey…

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8330/8124659859_915abfc260_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8330/8124659859_915abfc260_c.jpg)

So with the springs, retainers, valves and keepers removed from the heads, they’re ready to go to the machine shop. Just need to find time.

I still had the itch to do something so I grabbed a roll of tape and half empty can of plastidip and went to town on the winter car.

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8469/8124678602_cd4c31b15e_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8469/8124678602_cd4c31b15e_c.jpg)

Drying, peeled back the badge

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8043/8124660591_a4dc3fd29d_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8043/8124660591_a4dc3fd29d_c.jpg)

So, before  
 ![http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/431736_10100789069650048_864390332_n.jpg](http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/431736_10100789069650048_864390332_n.jpg)  
And after

 ![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8187/8124661001_2ff4076690_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8187/8124661001_2ff4076690_c.jpg)

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**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/86 "2012-10-26T06:18:59Z")

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Nice work, wouldn’t it have been easier to just remove the grill for dipping?

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/87 "2012-10-26T06:22:12Z")

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That was my first immediate thought as well. But, since the grille lifts with the hood, it’s not just some flimsy piece clipped into the hood, since it’s designed to withstand owners opening the hood by holding the grille. It’s actually secured to the hood via 9mm studs and bolts which all corroded and froze together a long time ago. I went to remove the first one and it immediately snapped the stud. Rather than deal with a grille flapping around forever, I said fuck it and had fun with tape.

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**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/88 "2012-10-26T09:23:39Z")

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Ahh well that makes perfect sense then.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/89 "2012-10-30T05:22:13Z")

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![http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8138170451_ef81d160bd_c.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8138170451_ef81d160bd_c.jpg)

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/90 "2012-10-30T05:57:55Z")

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Not sure why I never clicked on this thread before. :tup: to this project.

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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/91 "2012-10-30T08:44:19Z")

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Needs more turbo updates…Looking forward to see the progress on this.

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/92 "2012-10-30T08:59:02Z")

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Fuck the turbo dreams, I won’t be going down that road for years. Between buying a house next year and getting married in Fall 2014 I’m sure I’ll have other priorities.

I need to find a T56 now.

For all you F-Body guys…what do you recommend for a clutch/fw setup? I for sure want a light flywheel, not sure what brands are proven out there though. Can I use an aftermarket light flywheel with a stock clutch? What’s a good stock clutch for my application? C6 Z06/LS7 clutch? Or should I just stick with a new LS1/LS2/LS6 clutch? I’m not shooting for any specific power number—just going for a fun street setup. Milled 317 heads, stock LS2 cam, some form of headers (I have a set of shorties to hack up) and a cold air intake. Stock LS1 intake manifold and TB.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/93 "2012-10-30T09:01:00Z")

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People seem to have really good luck with the LS7 clutch…

Why don’t you try and find a used LS6 intake on LS1tech usually find them pretty cheap or maybe find a local one?

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/94 "2012-10-30T09:02:24Z")

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Because I’d rather get the car running before I start throwing performance parts at it that aren’t completely necessary.

Also, because I already had the LS1 intake

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/95 "2012-10-30T09:02:54Z")

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I’ll second LZ, just grab a LS7 clutch and you’ll be good to go.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/96 "2012-10-30T09:05:08Z")

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> [@96V6Bird](#):
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> Because I’d rather get the car running before I start throwing performance parts at it that aren’t completely necessary.
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> Also, because I already had the LS1 intake

Understandable 🙂

Just a btw if you go the LS6 intake route people buy used LS1 intakes on ebay for $150+ at least they did a year ago when I had a few.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/97 "2012-10-30T09:08:14Z")

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good to know LZ. next summer when she’s running and i get bored with the power i plan on going with a big cam and LS6 intake. we’ll see. maybe some spray.

i had initially budgeted (months and months ago) for a monster clutch, not sure why, but i thought i’d need one. nice to know the LS7 will do the job.

Should I go to GMPartsDirect for it or somewhere else? Also, what light flywheel is recommended? I like super quick revs and I’ll be the only one driving the car. If a stock clutch is a 1 on the ease of driving scale and getting moving in an F1 car is a 10, i’d like to be around a 6 or so.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/98 "2012-10-30T10:03:21Z")

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It’s not worth doing twice put the parts you want in now. I am selling my ls6 Friday but my hellion cam from new era is for sale

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/99 "2012-10-30T11:40:33Z")

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I’d find a use Fidenza 3 piece flywheel and slap on a new friction plate ($65) then I’d probably go with a LS7 or something else cheap and light.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lq9-into-e39/225230/100 "2012-10-30T19:15:39Z")

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so, i have a dumb question. try to keep the laughter and pointing to a minimum!

i unplugged and labeled most of the BMW harness from the M62. looking at all the plugs, there are many plugs that will no longer be used (for example, cam position sensors, bmw knock sensors, oil level sensor on pan, etc).

what do i do with these plugs? obviously they’ll never be used again, but can i really just cut/remove them? do i trace the wires all the way back to the BMW ECU and de-pin them and completely remove them? How will this affect the BMW ecu, and how much havoc will it cause with trying to get the car inspected (here in NYS, you cannot pass with a CEL on).

maybe someone that has swapped a motor from a different OEM into their vehicle can chime in.

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