# LS1 guys, c'mon in.....got a cam/VT question for ya

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [May 13, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096 "2010-05-13T20:06:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/21 "2010-05-14T10:55:42Z")

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> [@parking rates for bills games](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parking-rates-for-bills-games/31941/12):
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> Do you always have and asshole response to just about everything?

its all preception i guess. it wasnt a dick comment coming from me. this isnt an LS based community. the best advice will be given within the community, or directly from the source.

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**Author:** ![JVG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jvg/32/6348_2.png) [@JVG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JVG)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/22 "2010-05-14T11:57:41Z")

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> [@Feeler: 99 Legacy SUS 30th Anniversary Ed.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/feeler-99-legacy-sus-30th-anniversary-ed/31883/4):
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> its all preception i guess. it wasnt a dick comment coming from me. this isnt an LS based community. the best advice will be given within the community, or directly from the source.

Its a general car based community and it looks like he was just poking around if anyone around had info. Im sure hell gather info from all over, but you never know who has had experience with what as im sure you dont know half of this forum inside and out.  
As for perception of your posts, maybe its just me, but i perceive a lot of you posts as such. You might want to double think your posts or how you present them cause you do come off abrasive at times

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/23 "2010-05-14T12:55:51Z")

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> [@Fuck the ex?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuck-the-ex/31932/59):
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> I noticed you said the motor is bone stock down to the stock exhaust manifolds…
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> well, thunder racing makes a “CHEATR” cam specifically designed for this.
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> look at part numbers…99-TR-CHEATR v.3-CAM and 99-TR-CHEATR-CAM on this link…
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> [http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=vshop&vid=3&pcid=122](http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=vshop&vid=3&pcid=122)
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> guys have put down between 380-400rwhp on this cam with stock manifolds,exhaust etc…IMO, this would be the best cam for your application. It revvs out to 6800rpms from a idle.
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> other wise, I would obviously recommend anything from [texas-speed.com](http://texas-speed.com)…I have the MS3 (magic stick 3) cam in my car which is a little bit too radical for your application but I love it…and ever sense Brandon (FAST) tuned it, the car has a very everyday drive-ability to it.
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> As far as pushrods, Thunder racing hardened 7.400 will do (stocks are 7.425) LS2 timing chain, Ported LS6 oil pump (Which I highly recommend sense your going to be beating the car) and obviously titanium retainers,locks,seals and patriot gold dual .660 lift springs…The stock rocker arms are fine. More people actually break aftermarket rocker arms then the stockers.
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> a 99-00 LS1 also has the LS1 intake manifold and 853 heads. The LS1 intake manifold you want to atleast put a LS6 on there (20hp gain) or a FAST 90…
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> The 853 heads are ok…241’s (01-02 LS1) are better and the 243’s (LS6) are the best…you can get all those heads for under $600.

big thanks. this is the info and response I was hoping for 🙂

I read the oil pumps on the older LS1’s have had issues and I planned on updating the pump. Dry sump is not out of the question either

the idea with this car, being that it is the first GTR to have been brought to the states, is to keep it as original looking as possible. Everything you listed above fits the bill perfectly and will be done:)

~400RWHP in this chassis would be nutty, but could potentially give it the nudge to be a #1 contender next year in OLOA 2011 with some skill.

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/24 "2010-05-14T18:39:54Z")

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> [@\*OFFICIAL\* Buffalo Sabres 2007 Off-Season Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-2007-off-season-thread/30906/353):
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> big thanks. this is the info and response I was hoping for 🙂
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> I read the oil pumps on the older LS1’s have had issues and I planned on updating the pump. Dry sump is not out of the question either
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> the idea with this car, being that it is the first GTR to have been brought to the states, is to keep it as original looking as possible. Everything you listed above fits the bill perfectly and will be done:)
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> ~400RWHP in this chassis would be nutty, but could potentially give it the nudge to be a #1 contender next year in OLOA 2011 with some skill.

call up thunder racing and tell them you want the cheatr cam. Keep the stock manifold and such on the motor, because thats what the cam thrives off…You can buy the whole cam/valvetrain kit right from them.

I am not sure but if you checked the stats of the Cheatr cam, you will see it is by no means a small cam…its 117 LSA makes it invincible.

even with 380-400rwhp, its such a small margin in power that either way, the car will rip.

Get a ported LS6 oil pump. They are around $130 and its better to be safe then sorry. Mine increased my oil pressure by 20psi across the board. The only problem with that is you will burn a little bit more oil then the LS1’s already do. Just the nature of the beast.

if you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a PM and we can talk more.

LOl im a little confused but what is this “GTR” you speak of? Pics?!?

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/25 "2010-05-14T19:45:24Z")

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Ultima GTR I have no pics I can pull at the moment, but here’s one from online. I will be at the saratoga auto museum car show this Sunday with the car if you’d like to see it. ~2200lbs of mid engine kit car fury.

![http://media.techeblog.com/images/ultima_1.jpg](http://media.techeblog.com/images/ultima_1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/26 "2010-05-15T01:08:44Z")

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> [@FS/FT:92 Civic Hatchback LS/VTEC CHEAP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-ft-92-civic-hatchback-ls-vtec-cheap/31861/8):
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> Its a general car based community and it looks like he was just poking around if anyone around had info. Im sure hell gather info from all over, but you never know who has had experience with what as im sure you dont know half of this forum inside and out.  
> As for perception of your posts, maybe its just me, but i perceive a lot of you posts as such. You might want to double think your posts or how you present them cause you do come off abrasive at times

yeah man, well i dont know. i just figured that someone of his background would just go to the source and skip over the he said, she said about a product and contact the source directly you know, as im sure theyre more than capable of setting him up with something that will meet his needs exactly. you know what i mean?

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/27 "2010-05-15T04:51:17Z")

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> [@Boxersix"](#):
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> Ultima GTR I have no pics I can pull at the moment, but here’s one from online. I will be at the saratoga auto museum car show this Sunday with the car if you’d like to see it. ~2200lbs of mid engine kit car fury.
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> ![http://media.techeblog.com/images/ultima_1.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/d/2d7d84d4dcfdda932172ddc7a11e46b74390085a.jpeg)

wow

a cammed LS1 in that car would be dangerous.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/28 "2010-05-15T09:03:39Z")

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> [@Thoughts for chronic brake problems?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/thoughts-for-chronic-brake-problems/31953/10):
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> yeah man, well i dont know. i just figured that someone of his background would just go to the source and skip over the he said, she said about a product and contact the source directly you know, as im sure theyre more than capable of setting him up with something that will meet his needs exactly. you know what i mean?

If I felt I was going to get a load of BS from the people that actually ran the stuff then I would never have asked, but with my background I find personal opinion and choice of people like those that have posted in this thread a good reference point before dealing with companies that want to shove their products into your car.

And besides, it’s an internet automotive forum where such questions should be asked. If nothing else it gives you a legitimate thread to moderate :lol

> [@NYSpeed Admins - ASSEMBLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-admins-assemble/31958/16):
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> wow
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> a cammed LS1 in that car would be dangerous.

Only as dangerous as your right foot really. The chassis is quite stable 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/29 "2010-05-15T09:04:58Z")

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> [@NYSpeed Admins - ASSEMBLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-admins-assemble/31958/16):
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> wow
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> a cammed LS1 in that car would be dangerous.

That car is nutty. I saw the car in person a few days ago and was poking around at everything. If only I was a bit smaller and wasn’t as much as a pussy, I’d have one lol.

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/30 "2010-05-15T09:11:43Z")

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> [@Should ItsJim post NOOODS of his Ex-Slampiece?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-itsjim-post-nooods-of-his-ex-slampiece/31945/72):
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> That car is nutty. I saw the car in person a few days ago and was poking around at everything. If only I was a bit smaller and wasn’t as much as a pussy, I’d have one lol.

Feel free to get one anyway, I’ll drive it for you if you want 🙂

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls1-guys-cmon-in-got-a-cam-vt-question-for-ya/252096/31 "2010-05-15T13:32:05Z")

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> [@Jam Got A New Job](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jam-got-a-new-job/31959/20):
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> If I felt I was going to get a load of BS from the people that actually ran the stuff then I would never have asked, but with my background I find personal opinion and choice of people like those that have posted in this thread a good reference point before dealing with companies that want to shove their products into your car.
> 
> And besides, it’s an internet automotive forum where such questions should be asked. If nothing else it gives you a legitimate thread to moderate :lol
> 
> Only as dangerous as your right foot really. The chassis is quite stable 🙂

I meant dangerous in a good way!

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